Understanding Islam Part II

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
    Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
    in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
    countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
    of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet
    rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the
    next of its dignity and sanctity.

    The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as
    his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must
    delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased
    to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid
    qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social
    development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists
    in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and
    proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa,
    raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity
    is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
    had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell
    the civilization of ancient Rome." ~ Winston Churchill

    In 700 years, not one invention has come from Islamic ruled countries. The science from the Islamic Golden Age did not come from Islam but from dhimmis in the countries conquered by Islam which eventually decayed to what Churchill describes.
     
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    We have to remember that the Koran states that the only government acceptable to Muslims is an Islamic government run according to the rules laid down in the Koran and the only acceptable law is the law stated in the Koran. What this means is that every Muslim living in Australia does not support our government or our system of government or even democracy and they obey our laws only under sufferance. Their religion is completely incompatible with western society.
     
  3. m2catter

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    What a pile of rubbish, most Turks are unhappy that their new/old leader wants to bring them back to more religion.
    You can be a Muslim, but keep religion and state affairs separately.
    The way you express your opinion just states that you are a racist and dislike Muslims, and that you don't have a clue about this subject at all.....
    Point.
    regards
     
  4. DennisTate

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    My wife is a gifted Pentecostal who over these past 14 years has introduced me to a movement that I knew nothing about until the year 2000.

    There are still people who receive dreams, visions and messages from a much higher source. Near death experiencers tend to become amazingly psychic after their brush with death. Sometimes they become so energized that they will blow up light bulbs or computers just by being in a room. A gifted woman from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada was shown that the Creator the G-d of Abraham/ YHWH has big plans for the Islamic world.


    The breaking out of peace in the Middle East could well begin between the nations of Jordan and Israel.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html

    Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal? .....

    Several years ago I was led to read a book again about a near death experiencer who was shown that Jordan and Israel would become like one nation…. I wonder if this is true and if it would be according to the will of God for this to happen soon?


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    post #2....
    My guess on the new colour for Jordan would be GREEN…. as Isaiah 35 is fulfilled and the deserts of Jordan would be turned green through a great increase in desalination of ocean water……. Not to mention the blessing of God!

    http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html
     
  5. DennisTate

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    Wow.... that is one seriously heavy statistic regarding it being dhimmis who came up with all those inventions that did come out of the Islamic world during its golden age!

    I personally am a firm believer in the idea that String Theory corresponds with what is reported during near death experiences. There seems to be a minimum of four higher dimensions that people can be shown during a brush with death and......… the fifth space - time dimensional continuum where electromagnetism would be a component of gravity but time would be altered........ seems to be a prison environment where people who insist on blaming all their problems on others..... or on the Creator..... tend to get stuck in..... and with their increased IQ and psychic abilities these "Hungry Ghosts" as the Buddhist call them..... sure do a good job of taking over and influencing humans to misunderstand every message from a higher source.


    http://www.near-death.com/ritchie.html#a05a

    Gifted Christian visionary Rick Joyner was given a visionary dream of heaven back in 1995 where he was shown that these former humans who turn away from light - love - truth..... do an amazing job of messing up Christianity as well.....

    http://www.heaven.net.nz/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm

    ..................
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I personally am so impressed by the Dr. Ian Stevenson and Helen Wambach Ph. D. research that I am convinced that to some degree some form of what could be termed "reincarnation" does play some sort of role in world events as well as in our psychology.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html#a03
    3. Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons

    Dr. Stevenson was so convinced that his research could revolutionize psychiatry that he devoted forty years to studying 3000 cases of children having conscious memories of a past life.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stevenson
     
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    That seems to be his problem , too many meds and too many lie downs.
     
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    Muslims tend to have a deep respect for ancient King Cyrus of Persia. A man from Uganda who I believe had a near death experience while battling malaria has written an article on the subject of a modern Cyrus type of political leader that could lead to a major shift in Islamic political and religious leaders coming to belief in freedom of religion......… because Cyrus gave freedom of religion to all 127 provinces of the Persian Empire.

    You can see his article in post #6 here....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
     
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    Only problem is that the 72 virgins are 9 years old . Just the way Mohammed liked them ! 00792-M.jpg
     
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    I read somewhere that the suicide bombers use a cricket protector to cover their block and tackle, to ensure
    they are safe and secure to get their 72 virgins......as if a cricket protector would be any good against a load of C4....thats how they think...
     
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    Wrong. The Koran clearly states that there cannot be government without God. Muslims reject a wholey secular state.
     
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    What was the "government" in Saudi Arabia at the time of Muhammed????
     
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    You mean you don't realize that Islam is both a religion and political philosophy?
     
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    So now our 25,000 cadets are being advised not to wear their uniform to and from school
    The kids of Australia are now being drawn into this fiasco. We were always proud to wear
    our military uniform to school when we were in cadets....now, ...no, put it on at school...
    This is wrong,... bloody wrong....
     
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    I agree with you that there is something terribly wrong with this but the larger question is…….. if a particularly courageous Australian cadet were to ignore the warning and wear his or her uniform anyway……. and if five or ten Islamic students swarmed him or her to beat him or her up…….. would the other students help him or her out or just observe?!?

    There is reason to be concerned that dressing as Orthodox Jewish in the USA could soon get you into serious trouble. We do know that there is a segment of the population in Australia and the USA that would deliberately target a cadet wearing their uniform……. or an Orthodox Jew wearing theirs….. the question is….. what will the rest of us do about this?
     
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    With documented cases of Sikhs being attacked in the USA for looking too Islamic, that's a curious myopia you have going.
     
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    I have to agree, irrational fear isn't particular who it infects but the problem is that government and institutions are not leading in tolerance and acceptance but advising to bow down to irrational fear and advising to quell free speech.
     
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    Minorities are always in trouble, no matter where they live....

    I believe that once the Jews allow Palestine to found their own state, and stop stealing their land, it will have a world wide impact in all countries.

    The biggest problems are not the people, but their least trustworthy governments. They are all liars.....

    Regards
     
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    When you are putting out a fire you don't spray the water randomly at the flames. You direct it at the base, you get it at the source.

    We can spend the next 50 years fighting all the different fanatical groups that spring to life.

    "They fight dirty, they use intimidation, they use civilians as shields and objects if terror. They disobey the "laws of war" and certainly the morals and ethics of society.

    Today they are not small groups of rebels, but large well armed and financially backed. There is a ;lot more behind what we see or are told
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    "The Zionists have done EXACTLY the same thing. They use excuse after excuse, but to any rational intelligent thinker, it is wrong."

    Both of these are nothing to do with religion except to use it as a tool for the justification of what they do. They do what they do out of desire to have power or religious fanaticism, nothing to do with those that follow the religions.

    I would stick my neck out and say this. If the Zionists had not annexed land to which they had no right, if they had not terrorised the world to get what they wanted, if they were not continually stirring the pot. We wouldn't even be having this discussion and the world would be a much better place.
     
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    Looks like the terrorists have already won. In Australia we are too gutless and frightened to even put on our uniforms.
     
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    Well no...I think the schools are fulfilling what they see as a duty of care by giving this advice...in other words, the schools are covering their own arses....but the kids are now drawn into the whole issue...
     
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    Welcome to George Orwells 1984. You could see it was coming, they want total domination over us. Soon we will all have to dress the same so no one knows who anyone is.
     

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