Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax It was all said back in 1972
The fact that if we as people, don't stop passing the buck, passing the blame to others, especially the government, then not much is going to change, well for the good anyway.
I agree, individuals meed to take more initiative for creating a better world (assuming I've understood the message of the OP correctly). This might derail the thread, but an example of this comes in the form of a discussion I was having with a friend. He was saying fat/obese folks ought to get health care assistance, to which I strong disagreed. My argument was that, given the dramatic rise in numbers of obese people, clearly many of them are not mentally unsound or under some kind of duress that would create eating disorders - rather they are just self indulgent and stupid. My argument was that, these people make the conscious choice to eat poorly and foster lifestyles that lead to severe outcomes. Now I'm not opposed to helping people stay alive and what not, but I am where there are limited resources to do so and those seeking such resources require such help for ailments that are self inflicted without any disorder as factor at play. My friend saw my point and basically agreed in the end. The fact is, people need to take responsibility for themselves and their choices. If you want to do something its your personal interest and the outcomes of such activities should be your responsibility in the same way. There are plenty of other examples of this idiotic mentality.
Yes you have understood it correctly, and really when it all boils down it is up to the individual. Now I agree in sorts to our friend and you on individual responsibility and yes I know we are all responsible, well most of us are, there are people with mental health issues. There is however a bias for better health towards the more affluent in society. A lot of the people we rely on for our standard of living, shop assistants, cleaners, bus drivers etc all manage on a fairly modest income. Sea food, fresh meat etc is becoming expensive. Our better meats and seafoods are exported anyway as most world prices are much better then local ones. Lower income, disadvantaged and marginalised persons find fresh healthy diets more expensive. Peer pressure, saturation advertising etc also put pressure on those that are busy with work and frasseled with the children. There is also disparity in health and fitness services available to the rich from the poor. There needs to be some help and regulation.
I see where you are coming from, and I agree with your underlying principle, but I have to disagree with your analysis and conclusion: Sure, there is a disparity, but being obese is not a 'poor man' thing, furthermore, being less well off, particularly in a place like Australia does not inhibit one's ability to acquire a decent diet. The reality is, people are lazy and greedy. They put preference in a new tv than a good set of meals. It isnt the responsibility of others to pay for the repercussions of such idiocy. People go to school. They know junk food is bad for you. It takes A LOT of bad habits and idiocy to become so obese you acquire health problems. There is no excuse in a society like our own.
DV funny you should mention government help. We had a community allowance funded by the state government that was used to promote healthy lifestyle within the community. This was primarily targeted to our indigenous ladies with the view that if they could change their lifestyles it would in effect filter down to the kids and future generations. a great initiative that I was able to contribute to as I am very fit and nutritionally knowledgeable. I was more than glad to assist. We would organise fun runs, walks, fitness picnics, etc. I would also teach healthy choices in regards to food options. This programme not only helped in regards to health, but it also bought our diverse community together as we all shared something in common......health concerns. the funding was cancelled entirely on the 1st July. Big disappointment.
Don't get me wrong I definitely see where you are coming from, but the disparities need to be addressed, there are people trying to do the right thing.
Oh! To be that young and innocent again!! It's OK sweetie I still like you but just wait till you hit that age when you start wearing beige Cardigans and pulling your trouser belt up over your waist, whilst wearing tartan slippers................. Then you will understand that obesity is not simply about someone eating wrong or not exercising enough............
Actually, it is a philosophy, it can be attributed to anything. As this thread shows, to this point. You can attribute it to the environment, which you obviously have. You can attribute it to the standards of treatment of the old, wealthy, poor or young. And you can attribute it to understanding of the problem of Obesity, as now has been done. It belongs to the intent of the reader, to attribute it to whatever they like. Obviously this was thrown to the wall, to see what people would contribute it to.
Why should I wait? Time and age do not change the truth. So what is the source of the current rise in obesity?
Sure but such disparities are no excuse for a lack of individual responsibility for such things as choice of diet. And those that are idiots. Regardless, being too fat is a person problem, as I've explained.
Yes it always seems that the good initiates get the razor whilst the stupid and usally money wasting ones seem to survive
Obesity, is something that at present is currently being studied very hard at this time. Many feel, the current level of processed foods and additives could be contributing heavily to this issue. As most foods consumed now days are more preserved foods, as quantitative buying brings savings. This on it's own does not constitute obesity, but maintaining fitness levels does not account for the increase in energy levels in the body. But ultimately, behaviour is the catalyst for obesity.
Exactly. Its a choice. We are that from an early age that some food is better than others. There is no excuse for the overwhelming majority of these people.
I do think there is a small excuse, for not understanding that the consumption amount calls for more intense burn off than they beleive. As most do not understand the energy levels and how that correlates to their activity. However, I must say, this all assumes, that the premise of the idea which is currently being studied, is correct. If not, then it is obvious that people have no reason not to listen to what they have been told, all the years of their life.
If someone eats and they acquire weight such that they see undesirable physical changes, they, unless mentally unfit, should have the capacity to realize such changes and act accordingly. To get to the stage where you are obese is simply unacceptable irresponsibility. And dont get me started on the morbidly obese.
