US airstrike hits Afghan wedding party killing 18 men, women, and children

People with borderline personality disorder are known for symptomatic black and white thinking.

[video=youtube;acd0GGkGT6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acd0GGkGT6E[/video]

 

lol really?

Just because someone is using a human shield doesn't mean you have to blow then both up!

That's where it becomes evident to the rest of the world that the mentality of SOME Americans is truly outrageous. By killing the individuals in the wedding, you perpetuate terrorism and breed further hatred. Not only is the act of bombing the wedding an act of terrorism in itself, because of the utter lack of care for innocent life. But it CREATES MORE terrorists than it eradicates. It doesn't solve the problem but exasperates it, therefore it is illogical.

Get that into your fortified skull. The more the United States of Tyranny kill innocent civilians, be they human shields or not, the more anti american hatred is built up. Meaning in the end you create even more terrorists that want to kill your soldiers whenever they get a chance to enact their revenge. This full hardy, larger than life, inconsequential existence that some Americans possess is SICKENING to the core. And is testament to the utter destruction of American society today.Your life is not worth more than anyone else's, don't act like it is.

If an armed group of militants run into a wedding ceremony and take shelter among innocents, than you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing don't shoot and kill them all! The blood of innocents will always be revenged. Again, I see it is clear that some Americans don't know the meaning of the word "Terrorism"

YOUR military are the terrorists in the Middle East, understand that. YOU are the aggressors. What a world we live in.

 

If the people there are so mentally far behind in the evolution process that they can't understand that they should be angry at the people who use them as shields and put them in danger every day instead of the Americans then fine let them become terrorists. They will meet their end too eventually and it will be far, far away from American soil thus still keeping Americans safe. Better them than us.

I feel sorry for you AestheticBrah.

 

Thereby declaring that you are happy to be the #1 murderer of babies, children, women and innocent men in the world...great stance!

"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just" - Thomas Jefferson

Just remember, what goes around comes around, one way or another. All great empires fall, and the day the USA falls from grace, you will cry in vain.

I don't see why you should be sorry for me to be honest. I'm not the one that doesn't value human life just because they are in a far away country, I'm not the one condoning and endorsing the killing of babies and innocent people. It is you I pity.

 

For those who would like to see China become world Hegemon, lets keep the USA in AFghanistan another 10 years.

 

That's completely untrue and you have no statical proof or any proof that America is any of that. I'm happy to hear that the enemy and those that harbor them are being killed. What country do you live in? Are the rest of them like you? If so I'd imagine your country would be easy to destroy considering you don't condone going after enemies or the people that protect them. Must be rough living your false utopia.

What is this? This has nothing to do with anything that I have said. Is this your "Oh hey look I know how to use Google!!"? Wonderful. Good for you.

Do you have penis envy or something? America is great, yes it's wonderful but just because it's better than the place that you live in doesn't justify your unfounded extreme hate towards America. Nah, I'll be long, long dead by the time America falls, if it ever does. Keep dreaming though!

I feel sorry for you because people like you, well evolution handles your types. I don't value people in a far away land that don't value mine and would take any chance to end it. No, you are an apologist for terrorists and terrorism. You'd much rather defend them and their actions than condemn them for terrorizing people.

 

Apologies for the edit, AB, however, I agree with the rest of what you wrote, and wished to focus on your statement here.

It isn't illogical.

Here is why it is not illogical for mafia who have hijacked the US, to do this.

That is part of their objective, to create more loathing toward the US, so that they can use this as a further excuse, domestically, and globally, to keep murdering people, terrorising people, and ignoring all sense of laws and human decency. Moreoever, prompting more loathing for the US acts as a handy tool for them to keep US citizens in a constant state of fear.

The really illogical part is anyone who isn't a DIRECT part of this mafia, to support the mafia.

What these ding bats cannot see, is that the same mafia will erode their rights too, no exceptions, you shall see.

Only the terminally stupid or those that are part of the mafia would keep on wanting to create more animosity.

 

Nail on head yet again, AB.

However, the minds of many Americans have become so contaminated, that trying to reason with them, is like trying to appeal to the empathetic side of the criminally insane. So contaminated are their minds that virtues have become anti virtues, and anti virtues have become virtues.

Examples.

Truth is bad...if it shines a light on criminal elites or Jewish supremacism.

Desiring true peace is bad....as it is a 'weakness'.

Sharing is bad ... greed is good.

Revering corportations is good...

....esp over the rights of people.

We could go all the way back with this, but I wonder if you recall Nicaragua?

Let us consider for a moment the portrayal of Nicuragua, under attack by the US.

The US elites sponsored terrorism there as an effective method of making Nicaragua "more democratic".

And "less of a threat to it's neighbours".

How many in the media at that time, were prepared to tell citizens in the US the truth - Nicaragua was more democratic than either El Salvador or Guetemala in every non Orwellian sense of the word?

That it's Gov did not murder ordinary citizens on a routine basis, as the Gov's of the other two did.

That is had carried out socio economic reforms imporant to the majority of it's people, than the Gov's of the other two somehow would not attempt.

That they posed no threat to it's neighbours, but was, in fact, subjected to relentless attacks by the US.

The US criminal elite fear of Nicaragua was based more on their virtues, and not on it's alleged defects.

Jack

 

Your way the only ones who'll win battles are those willing to use human shields. They'll be invulnerable to us if we refuse to shoot back at them and then we'll lose. That is why we must shoot back, innocents or not in the way. It's the only way to insure they don't win and we don't lose.

 

we live in a crazy world. i never thought id live long enough to see the day that cowering behind women and children while tossing grenades would be considered heroic. its kind of scary.

 

Me neither. I don't understand it. I was raised to protect women and children and lay down my life for them if needed.

This is so Bizzarro world.

 

Wow!!

Who is suggesting that these militants hiding behind women and children are heroic. They are COWARDS of the highest echelon. I never once suggested their actions are heroic. To the best of my knowledge no one has suggested such cowardice to be heroic. So please, either get a refund on your education or actually read and participate with what people are ACTUALLY saying.

I am saying, if there is a chance of innocents being killed in such large numbers, DO NOT ENGAGE! that's all I'm saying. Because what goes around comes around, and killing innocents about the worst way you can try to win hearts and minds. Then again as Jack highlights, the USA is determined to perpetuate this hatred around the ME, for financial gain of course

But I do agree with you on one thing, we live in a crazy world indeed. I never thought i'd live to see the day that killing innocent babies, children, women and men would be considered heroic. Its scary.

 

This post can only mean two things.

1) You hate America.

2) You hate Jews.

I mean, how else can it possibly be read..


PS - You know that 'win hearts and minds' slogan. I think it was Bush that first used the phrase, but it will have been written for him by some PR company. Usually these jingoisms have no real meaning. Except for this one. They did want to 'win the hearts and minds' of Americans, sure enough. And for the criminal mafia that desired to win them, they succeeded. We see it here, each and every day.

How so? Well, they 'won' their minds, by filling their brain full of so much sickness and disinformation, that Americans can now only respond to any criticism with the line 'Why do you hate America'? And they 'won' their hearts - and replaced them with a block of ice.

Job done, see..?

Jack

 

lol I certainly see that, discussing with certain members of this forum [they know themselves] is a futile and fantastically time absorbing activity. Because they are so insistent on twisting your words, putting words in your mouth, lying, or outright denying the facts presented in front of them.

Bunch of zombies to the central bank run, arms industry funding, baby murdering, Zionist state that is the USA.

 

did you read thre article or just the title of the thread and then assume you knew what happened? here let me point something out for you.

Allen told an Associated Press reporter traveling with him that the troops did not know there were civilians inside the house at the time of the airstrike.

“They were taken under fire. A hand grenade was thrown. Three of our people were wounded. We called for the people who were shooting to come out, and then the situation became more grave, and innocent people were killed,” he told the AP.

“Our weapons killed these people,” Allen said.

so according to the article the freedom fighters started the firefight, not the usa. the freedom fighters chose where the fight would take place, not the usa. the usa had no idea there were civilians in there so it certainly wasnt intentional. when i read the article what i sense is sincere remorse over the killing of innocents, something you NEVER see from the terrorists that lots of you seem to be constantly apologizing for. youre demonizing the wrong side here and you call me names because im not falling for the propaganda you're falling for. dude educate yourself, please. these soldiers were in a fight for their lives and taking injuries from a hostile force inside a house. but your solution is just start backing away to get shot in the back because even though there is no evidence of it there might be innocent people in there? im glad you arent the one commanding our forces or we would be getting slaughtered on every battle field. you armchair commanders are stunningly dense.

and another thing, the soldiers fighting this war do not gain financially from the war and certainly have no agenda to make ourselves hated. the people that you conspiracy theorists are claiming want the ME to hate us do not walk the battlefield or have any control over how our soldiers conduct themselves so to assume we do this with the intention of nurturing hatred is about as absurd as claiming 9/11 was an inside job and osama bin laden died years ago.

 

The more rampant Zionist Jews have risen in the US, the more non Jewish American seem to be suffering from a collective neurosis and paranoia.

Jews have two states.

There is their terrorist founded one, in the ME - and there is their cash cow one, in the US, a state within a state.

They have also had their brains turned to mush by their awful media.

I believe it possible to induce a state of mental illness among a mass of people.

Do any of these traits resonate with you?

Reacts to criticism with anger.

May take advantage of others to reach their own goals.

Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents.

Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance.

Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others.

Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others.

Obsessed with oneself.

Mainly pursues selfish goals.

Trouble keeping healthy relationships.

Sets unrealistic goals.

Appears as tough-minded or unemotional.

You do? You think these are the traits shown by those you refer to, maybe?

Well, these traits are symptomatic of the mental illness....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

 

and ive discovered your ailment as well. Schadenfreude. below is the pertinent information.

Scientific studies

A New York Times article in 2002 cited a number of scientific studies of schadenfreude, which it defined as "delighting in others' misfortune". Many such studies are based on social comparison theory, the idea that when people around us have bad luck, we look better to ourselves. Other researchers have found that people with low self-esteem are more likely to feel schadenfreude than are people who have high self-esteem.[25]
A 2003 study examined intergroup schadenfreude within the context of sports, specifically an international soccer competition. The study focused on the German and Dutch soccer teams and their fans. The results of this study indicated that the emotion of schadenfreude is very sensitive to circumstances that make it more or less legitimate to feel such malicious pleasure towards a sports rival.[26]
A 2006 experiment suggests that men, but not women, enjoy seeing bad people suffer. The study was designed to measure empathy, by watching which brain centers are stimulated when subjects inside an fMRI observe someone experiencing physical pain. Researchers expected that the brain's empathy center of subjects would show more stimulation when those seen as good got an electric shock than would occur if the shock was given to someone the subject had reason to consider bad. This was indeed the case, but for male subjects, the brain's pleasure centers also lit up when someone got a shock that the male thought was well-deserved.[27]
Brain-scanning studies show that schadenfreude is correlated with envy in subjects. Strong feelings of envy activated physical pain nodes in the brain's dorsal anterior cingulate cortex; the brain's reward centers, such as the ventral striatum, were activated by news that the people envied had suffered misfortune. The magnitude of the brain's schadenfreude response could even be predicted from the strength of the previous envy response.[28][29]
A 2009 study indicates that the hormone oxytocin may be involved in the feeling of schadenfreude.[30] In that study, it was reported that when participants in a game of chance were pitted against a player they considered arrogant, inhaling oxytocin through the nose enhanced their feelings of schadenfreude when their opponent lost as well as their feelings of envy when their opponent won.
A study conducted in 2009 by Combs et al. provides evidence for people's capacity to feel schadenfreude in response to negative events in politics.[31] The study was designed to determine whether or not there was a possibility that events containing objective misfortunes might produce schadenfreude. It was reported in the study that the likelihood of experiencing feelings of schadenfreude depends upon whether an individual's own party or the opposing party is suffering harm. This study suggests that the domain of politics is prime territory for feelings of schadenfreude, especially for those who identify strongly with their political party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

 

That is correct, I knew you would wake up eventually.

You do not benefit financially from these wars of aggression and occupation.

On the contrary, they have crippled the American economy, and have hamstrung you morally.

Someone does benefit though....can you guess who it may be?

You would never get Americans making (*)(*)(*)(*)e up, and passing it off as 'fact'.


Fictoid #3:
The Lair of bin Laden


On November 26th, the New York Times carried a story based on the account of an a ex-Russian soldier, Viktor Kutsenko, who had served in Afghanistan in the nineteen-eighties in which he claimed that there had seen an elaborate cave complex in Zhawar with "iron doors" that contained " a bakery, a hotel with overstuffed furniture, a hospital with an ultrasound machine, a library, a mosque, weapons of every imaginable stripe; a service bay with a World War II-era Soviet tank inside, in perfect running order." The historic story then added "Mr. bin Laden is reported to have upgraded both it and a nearby camp in the 1990's."



On November 27th, the London-based Independent came up with its own fairly similar troglodyte story, except that it had moved the underground fortress from Zhawar to Tora Bora, where the manhunt for bin Laden was about to begin, and advanced it in time from the nineteen-eighties to the present.
The Independent headlined: "Al-Qa'ida almost 'immune to attack' inside its hi-tech underground lair." In the story, its correspondent Richard Lloyd Parry, in Jalalabad, described a vast redoubt burrowed deep under a mountain, with labyrinthian tunnels sealed by with iron doors. "It has its own ventilation system and its own power, created by a hydro-electric generator. Its walls and floors in the rooms are smooth and finished and it extends 350 yards beneath a solid mountain." It was therefore tunneled almost as deep as the World Trade Center was high. It was also " so well defended and concealed that – short of poison gas or a tactical nuclear weapon – it is immune to outside attack. And it is filled with heavily armed followers of Osama bin Laden, with a suicidal commitment to their cause and with nothing left to lose."


It further claimed that fortress was built " reportedly employing expertise from Mr bin Laden's Saudi construction businesses" and housed "as many as 2,000 Arab and foreign fighters." The story's putative unidentified witness— the lone deep throat— explained, "It's like a hotel, with doors on the left and the right."


The idea that Osama and his followers had entombed themselves in an unassailable fortress under a mountain immediately embedded itself into the imagination of the American press. The Associated Press put The Independent story on its services, which went to hundreds of major newspapers and broadcasting stations. ABC News re-headlined the story "Bin Laden Hide-out Resembles Hotel: Witness," depicting "The cave complex ... filled with bin Laden's fanatical followers." Yahoo noted in its Internet service "Bin Laden has reputedly built a fortress 1,150 feet (350 meters) beneath the mountains, equipped with water, electricity and ventilation and guarded by hundreds or thousands of fighters ready to die for their leader." CBS, expanding the story, reported that an Afghan "commander thinks bin Laden is in a cave fortress known as Tora Bora. The massive hideout was built by the U.S. to house forces fighting the Soviet Army in the 1980s. The complex - nicknamed "bin Laden's ant farm," is burrowed deep into Gree Khil peak -- soaring 13,000 feet above the village of Tora Bora. It is virtually impregnable -- a latticework of tunnels, storage rooms for arms and munitions, and accommodations for up to a thousand fighters. Ventilation shafts bring fresh air 1,200 feet inside the mountain. A nearby river provides hydroelectric power to the complex... at least 2,000 of bin Laden's al-Qaida fighters are believed to be hiding there," In the Los Angeles Times Professor Mark C. Taylor added to his essay on an ancient troglodyte Hittite city in Turkey that "This city and others like it provide the prototype for the underground fortresses where Bin Laden and his followers are presumed to be hiding;" The Atlanta Journal-Constitution put the underground city in context, saying "The bitter and brutal end game between Osama bin Laden and U.S.-led forces is being played out in a mountain fortress the CIA helped build... equipped with ventilation and hydroelectric power." This bunker-fortress, the story continued, "provides bin Laden with significant advantages... it is considered invulnerable even to bunker-busting bombs and impregnable to conventional military attack." The Times of London meanwhile illustrated its story with an artist's rendering of the underground fortress, which dwarfed even Hitler's infamous "eagle's nest" fortress.


The story probably reached its high point on NBC's Meet The Press on December 2nd when Tim Russert, the host of the program, provided Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld with the artist's rendering of bin Laden's fortress. The interview proceeded:



Russert: The Times of London did a graphic, which I want to put on the screen for you and our viewers. This is it. This is a fortress. This is a very much a complex, multi-tiered, bedrooms and offices on the top, as you can see, secret exits on the side and on the bottom, cut deep to avoid thermal detection so when our planes fly to try to determine if any human beings are in there, it's built so deeply down and embedded in the mountain and the rock it's hard to detect. And over here, valleys guarded, as you can see, by some Taliban soldiers. A ventilation system to allow people to breathe and to carry on. An arms and ammunition depot. And you can see here the exits leading into it and the entrances large enough to drive trucks and cars and even tanks. And it's own hydroelectric power to help keep lights on, even computer systems and telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation.


Rumsfeld: Oh, you bet. This is serious business. And there's not one of those. There are many of those. And they have been used very effectively. And I might add, Afghanistan is not the only country that has gone underground. Any number of countries have gone underground. The tunneling equipment that exists today is very powerful. It's dual use. It's available across the globe. And people have recognized the advantages of using underground protection for themselves.


A few weeks after the "Meet the Press" interview, US special forces and their Afghan allies occupied Tora Bora. They painstakingly searched Gree Khil mountain and the surrounding area. They found no underground fortress, no hydro-electric power plant, no 2000-room hotel, no ant farm, no iron doors, no ventilating shafts. The troglodyte Lair of Bin Laden turned out to be mythic.



http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid3.htm

 

I thought your were putting me on ignore, or did you lie about that as well?

You just cannot stop lying can you.

Shame.

 

You're projecting your own neurosis and paranoia, Jack, and that particular neurosis and paranoia is hardly anything new...



The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

 

check your list of people that have you on ignore, youll see me there. however i do view your posts when youre the only one posting in hopes that you might add something useful to the conversation... but you continue to disappoint.

 

This airstrike cost us a couple million dollars, but we only killed 18 people?

We really need to optimize our weaponry's collateral and designated damage, especially when using aircraft. drone or manned.

 

according to jack and a few others it was jews that ordered the air strike and the few million we spent doing so will net them a huge profit in the short term. this was strictly a financial move according to jack

 

I like how you carefully and intentionally missed my point. Obviously the soldiers don't benefit financially genius, the ruling elite couldn't care LESS about anyone of those US soldiers. Got it? the people running your country don't give a hoot about your troops...so of course they don't benefit.

But I'm sure you know who does. When I said it is in your countries interest to kill babies, and maim innocent women. This is true, because it creates a sense of hatred among your enemies, they then resort to joining militia groups to seek revenge. Thus justifying the reason to continue to occupy their country and of course label them "terrorists" and kill them. Killing them require weapons. Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics are smiling all the way to the banks as you continue to murder people in the Middle east. do you see it now?

N..No? you need me to go further?

How about the fact your country has to borrow even more money from central bankers to keep the "war" wheels turning, how about the fact more money is borrowed at interest from the central bank that controls your country, to finance defense contracts and weaponry. No doubt fattening up the greedy bankers.

Can you now see why the USA continues to put forward a view of itself that causes radicals to hate them? because the more hate, the more brown people they can blow up, the fatter the bankers and arms manufacturers get!