US Crime Rate Down

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  1. APACHERAT

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    The L.A. County Sheriffs Department confirms that many crimes in immigrant communities go unreported. Mostly property crimes, assaults, street robberies and rapes go unreported. Doesn't matter if they are legal immigrants or illegal aliens, they brought their culture with them and the police are not to be trusted and are the enemy.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was liberals who took affordable guns off the market in America.

    If you can't afford to protect your family and exercise your Second Amendment rights, you can only blame liberals.
     
  3. Darkbane

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    I do think its a fact, I even cited the fact a california university study showed 90% of illegal women have been victims of sexual crimes... and last I checked, crime stats show the majority among legal women go unreported, so can't I use those same facts put forth by democratic organizations as proof illegal women don't report most crimes either for the same reasons? so wouldn't that further prove the point that illegals are not reporting crimes committed by other illegals against them?

    I mean its not a far logical leap in the least bit...

    are you trying to suggest illegals don't commit crimes? or trying to suggest illegals report 100% of all crimes? I mean any way you spin the bottle in this circle, its pointing at someone, you're going to have to kiss or quit the game... you seem to want to keep playing until it lands on who you want to kiss... and thats not how the game works... you can't keep spinning until it works out how you want, ignoring the fact it landed on someone... kiss or quit...

    so lets get you some proof you can't dispute? although someone already pointed out you're rejected it until it agrees with you so might be hard...

    lets cite democratic organizations who make the claims illegals don't report crimes against them... will you accept democratic proof?

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/15/1599671/dayton-immigrant-crime/

    (story points out how the city is changing laws so they can't be deported if they report crimes against them, crime stats in that city for illegals increased dramatic)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Act

    what about the violence against womens act, which has special provisions for illegal women to get temporary visas while the person is prosecuted, democrats sure thought illegals were not reporting incidents, so much they passed a law giving them temporary legal status so they would come forward, so if democrats thought this was CRITICAL back then and a huge issue, why are you rejecting your democratic history saying it was and is a problem today...

    http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/08/1980161/study-fearing-deportation-latinos-dont-report-crimes/

    here is another study done from another democratic organization and university involvement, demonstrating illegals do not come forward and most crimes committed against them are often by other illegals who know they won't report it... okay more democratic proof... still want to keep denying this fact?

    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3587531/

    and here is a perfect example of an illegal who reported a crime and was charged as a result for being illegal... and he and his attorney cite why illegals are often afraid to report crimes because of this very reason...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/09/sanctuary-cities-law-enforcement_n_7765058.html

    this goes to show why sanctuary cities created sanctuary cities in the first place... to reduce overall crime that was not being reported or assisted with because illegals were afraid to cooperate and get deported for cooperating... you know the whole reason these cities claim they must be sanctuary cities due to crimes against illegals and illegals won't work with law enforcement to capture the criminals...

    WHY ARE YOU IN UTTER COMPLETE DENIAL...

    these are all democratic supporting sources detailing the reality of illegals not reporting crimes against them... please explain how you can deny it now when your own party is saying its a massive issue in america...
     
  4. RPA1

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    I didn't see that in the link you provided in your OP which seemed to be about too many Marijuana arrests. Native born Americans far outnumber illegals therefore by population of data alone they would statistically commit more crimes. That proves nothing.
     
  5. Doug_yvr

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    The statistic is proportionate obviously.
     
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    I dont see where they separate who is committing the crimes only the number committed. Every survey we have showed you says your wrong
     
  7. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since no one will go to the link I posted, much less the studies quoted by the article I'll post them here. If you're going to refute these studies do so with actual studies, not nonsense about unreported crime.

     
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    You didn't link to the stat in your OP.
     
  9. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My OP is about crime in the US generally. The link to immigrant crime is in a previous post in this thread. Read the thread before you reply and you'll know what you're debating.
     
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    Your link to immigrant crime was made subsequent (not previous) to your OP in which you referred to immigrant crime. Why should I have to read a whole thread to get facts that were not included in the OP? Were you just trolling?
     
  11. Doug_yvr

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    It's only 4 pages. It won't kill you to read something so you know what you're talking about. When you get to the link (which you're debating without even seeing apparently) follow it to see the studies (you're discounting without even seeing).
     
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    I still cant find it and besides how about giving us the stats on illegal immigrants not legal ones. I would venture legal immigrants do indeed commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens as they want to stay here.
     
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    The link is in this post and includes information on both legal and illegal immigrants.

    It seems illegals are also keen to stay so are careful. Second generation stats are indistinguishable from native-born Americans so the gap pretty much disappears in subsequent generations.
     
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    Well that was well hidden and it still does not address illegal aliens so it means nothing
     
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    If you can't find the bloody link there's no surprise you can't find the relevant stats.
     
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    Well you certainly didnt quote them

    Heres the closet thing I can find to back you up

    Please explain this

    Illegal Immigrants Accounted for Nearly 37 Percent of Federal Sentences in FY 2014

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

    See those are stats on illegal immigrants
     
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    Those are cherry-picked stats:
    You could drive Texas through the hole in those stats.
     
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    Anyone can afford to buy used saturday night special.
     
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    Disproportionate share of what kinds of crimes?
    Compare illegal aliens and blacks in the US.
     
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    Actually it isn't a news source period!
     
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    Well having followed this discussion a rational person must conclude that the way to reduce crime in America is to deport illegals, send blacks back to Africa, and deport all Hispanics. Just think how crime free America could be if it was all white.

    Oh, wait, I forgot that crime rates are higher among the poor. Guess we have to either make them wealthy or deport them too. Hallelujah, an all rich,white, crime free country. Oh, wait I forgot about " White Collar Crime"

    Ha,ha,ha, ha,
     
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    Actually, the number of illegal immigrants is down from 2007 or so.
     
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    Any guess on why??
     
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    Because the economy sucks under Obama
     

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