US evacuates Embassy in Libya amid Clashes.....

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  1. MMC

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    Syria was a mistake just waiting to happen.....but in connection to Libya, it is the tie that binds.

    Mornin' Flyboy. [​IMG] Here BO and his dog.....uhm I mean Team. Were suppose to be conducting an FBI investigation. Which has come to a complete stop.

    Now evacuating this Embassy.....despite all the pretty words to describe in another way. Shows the Policy for what it is. Which is why this morning one of BO's team members was trying to explain away.....why this isn't a failure.
     
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    When did you begin to follow events in Libya and Ghaddafi
     
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    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But what could he have done? Just let Gadhaffi stay in power and keep slaughtering his own people?
     
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    For this issue.....How about when the French was in the Ivory Coast and Filing resolution after resolution in the UN on Gadhafi.....so long before The move was even made.

    Shall we go back to when Hill-Dog was taking a pic with Gadhafi's son Right here in the US. Or when Bilbo was running things.
     
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    The Bush administration wanted to believe Ghaddafi had changed .. and those who know Libya and have watched Ghaddafi since 1969 knew that he couldn't change.. He was always an unschooled Bedouin boy with a chip on his shoulder and a penchant for assassination.

    The tribes always hated him... particularly those in the East around Benghazi and Marsa Brega.

    This is just an evac of the remaining personnel from our Embassy in Tripoli.. and a good move..

    Oil production and shipping will come to a standstill again.. and Libya will starve since they import 90% of their food.
     
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    Mornin BV. [​IMG] Gadhafi wasn't slaughtering his own people.....where was the Pics and Photos? Where was the genocide that the French said he was committing?

    Gadhafi was working with the West.....and was always a Pain in the Sunni Arabs plans. Any of them. From the Saud and OPEC. To the Qatarian backed Muslim Brotherhood.

    Gadhafi also kept the Terrorists in Check.....this isn't to say Qadhafi was ever a good guy. But he did show that he was willing to work with the West.....while he kept garnering support for a United States of Africa. Then he was sold out by the West.....Despite partying with all the Wests leaders in those Castles up in England and France.

    The French backstabbed and then helped to slit his throat. Causing an open vacuum to take place in Libya.

    Now AQ and Ansar al Sharia.....have a straight shot to the West Coast of the African Continent.....towards the Carribean and the US.
     
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    Yes he was slaughtering his own people and he said so in his newscasts.. The French didn't backstab him... You probably didn't know that Ghaddafi was funding every terrorist group in Africa and threatening to assassinate leaders of our allied countries.

    Partying with celebs is not significant of anything...

    What I would like to know is if these buck wild militias are also threatening the Russian Embassy which is just across the street.
     
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    The toy is broken. Kids from the White House are more about the toy at Ukraine...

    I would say that these kids are already spoilt. Looking back to the list of broken toys and understanding that all of it is blood and lives the kids really deserve some actions. Under the circumstances few spanks would be handy. If not the spanks than later they will have punches and kicks.
     
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    Did Gadhafi send troops into Iraq? This pretty much answers the Issue on you thinking for Bush Junior.

    The tribes hated him? Yeah those Berbers related to Idris. The rest rode with him.....and note. None are backing any of Idris' blood to take control of Libya.

    Oh and let me remind you that after our Consulate was hit in Benghazi......the following month Our Embassy was hit in Tunisia. Under BO and his incompetent team. Just sayin.
     
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    You don't know anything about Idris or Libya.. and there is NO teaching you anything. You were not there. I was...
     
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    Got a link that can validate that? One with any Photos or pics......and Gadhafi admitting to going after any Berbers backed by the Muslim brotherhood is not going after his people.

    Partying with Leader of France like Sarkosy and English Leadership with US leadership.....aren't Celebrities. Despite US politicians think they are so.

    The Russians closes their Embassy in Libya. Do you have a link to validate they re-opened them up? Also the Chinese pulled out from the Hotel they were using.

    The US was the Last remaining Western Post in the Wild Wild West. Now Elvis has left the building.

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    Looks like you don't know much about Libya Nor Saudi Arabia where you said you lived for 2 decades. Wheres your links. Put up or You Know the drill!!!!!
     
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    There are a half dozen you tube videos of Ghaddafi's newscasts and announcements.

    King Idris Senussi ruled from 1951 thru 1969 under a very enlightened Constitution .. and prior to that he had experience in governance as mayor of Tripoli for 30 years.

    I don't know whether or not the Russian Embassy is closed or not at this point... however is there on the same street where I lived.. so I would guess that the militias are making their lives uncertain as well. The Chinese pulled out just like all 7 foreign oil companies. They can't function in a war zone...
     
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    Whos this Margot? Who is this wearing the Seersucker suit? Wheres those links of Gadhafi committing genocide on his people in 2012?

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    You can see Ghaddafi's threats on any number of You tube videos.. Don't be lazy.. Diplomatic photos are not very meaningful... like Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.

    Meanwhile the militias continue to battle each other and the British diplomats have fled as well.

    ALL the US could to "control" the civil war in Libya was stand back and hope for the best.
     
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    U Tube Videos aren't any validation Margot......wheres the links of Gadhafi committing Genocide on his People in 2011?

    Here let me give you a lil help.


    Libya Timeline:


    2008 January - Libya takes over one-month rotating presidency of the UN Security Council in a step back to respectability after decades as a pariah of the West.

    2008 August - Libya and US sign agreement committing each side to compensate all victims of bombing attacks on the other's citizens.

    Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi apologises to Libya for damage inflicted by Italy during the colonial era and signs a five billion dollar investment deal by way of compensation.

    2008 September - US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice makes historic visit - the highest-level US visit to Libya since 1953. Ms Rice says relations between the US and Libya have entered a "new phase".

    2009 February - Gaddafi elected chairman of the African Union by leaders meeting in Ethiopia. Sets out ambition of "United States of Africa" even embracing the Caribbean.

    2010 January - Russia agrees to sell Libya weapons in a deal worth $1.8bn. The deal is thought to include fighter jets, tanks and air defence systems.

    2010 July - US senators push for inquiry into claims that oil giant BP lobbied for Lockerbie bomber's release.

    BP confirms it is about to begin drilling off Libyan coast.

    Anti-Gaddafi uprising

    2011 February - Arrest of human rights campaigner sparks violent protests in eastern city of Benghazi that rapidly spread to other cities, leading to escalating clashes between security forces and rebels. Gaddafi insists that he will not quit, and remains in control of the capital, Tripoli.

    2011 March - UN Security Council authorises a no-fly zone over Libya and air strikes to protect civilians, over which NATO assumes command.

    Backed by extensive NATO air raids, Libyan rebels initially capture territory but are then forced back by better-armed pro-Gaddafi forces. Rebels ask West for arms

    2011 July - The international Contact Group on Libya formally recognises the main opposition group, the National Transitional Council (NTC), as the legitimate government of Libya......snip~


    The International Contact Group being France and England. The first to recognized the Rebels as the rulers of Libya even while Gadhafi was in control.

    Note all that takes place after BO and his Team take over here. All BO and How he always had it wrong. Got it wrong. Then did wrong.
     
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    Closing the embassy in Libya and getting boots off the ground in in Afghanistan and Iraq may be evidence of a new Brennan Doctrine- that the US will, instead, Drone Anywhere, at Any Time, in Pursuit of Anything.
     
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    Well, we need to start doing it with the terrorists in Iraq.....as we evacuated most Embassy Personnel out of Baghdad too.

    Naturally Team BO tried to say it wasn't evacuation. But the rest of the planet saw it for what it was.
     
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    Yes, evacuating the embassy in Tripoli. Weren't we told Ambassadors are expected to carry out their duties even in dangerous places? They should not be fortifying themselves behind massive walls and barbed wire. Or surround themselves with so many body guards they are unable to interact with locals? I always been of the opinion that no embassy personnel should be exposed to dangerous places like Benghazi and now Tripoli. All I can say is I'm glad the SD made this decision to keep them safe.
     
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    Kerry says operations are suspended but that business will still take place.....and yeah its good they made the move. If you seen the Libyan Timeline I have up. Its clear.....BO and his Team has known all along what was taking place in Libya.....and specifically Benghazi.
     
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    Did your timeline include the 23 other Embassies under threat the day of the Benghazi attack?
     
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    No since we were only talking about the Libyan Timeline......which shows Exactly what was taking place with Libya and Benghazi.

    That deflection won't work. Just sayin!
     
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    Fox News didn't consider it a deflection.. They posted a map of all those Embassies... Security personnel are limited and they were spread thin.
     
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    What does that have to do with Libya in 2011......not a damn thing. Nor does it help with what BO and his team knew in 2012 all leading up to that day.

    Also if BO would have put the US on its Highest Alert. Stevens would have stayed locked down. But BO was to worried about Partying/Campaigning.

    Trying to deflect with what came afterwards has no bearing on the matter.

    Oh and another hint for you.....Check the War on Terror's Timeline too. Might give you a clue or two. :wink:
     
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    [video=youtube;WI0Lvi2YFHo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0Lvi2YFHo[/video]

    No, he wasn't. He was oppressive dictator who had been illegally ruling Libya for 40 years. And he got what he deserved. I don't like Obama but I admit that he didn't have a good choice with supporting or not supporting rebels.
     
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    Yes, I am very familiar with the Benghazi fiasco. Glad to see this administration actually learned something. The business Kerry is talking about will take place north of Libya in Tunisia. That is where all the embassy personnel have been moved.
     

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