US jets bomb Assad tank convoy advancing on coalition base in Syria

Ooooohhh... I thought you were talking about the Islamic State. Sorry dude... My bad. Just disregard it.

 

The legitimacy of Israel as a country is widely disputed. Including inside the UN.

The practical reality is to accept it in my opinion. They rule there. That much is obvious to all.

 

Bear in mind these texts were written when there was no police and only the fear of God existed to serve some order, Men cannot simply rape or have sex with girls and run, they need to take care of them as well, its Human rights laws from 2500 years ago....

 

I accept the rule that there will be no peace to Israel till there will be one in Palestine, that could be never or in 10 years from now, dont know but I hope on the latter.

 

Well if they behave we'll think about accepting them. Otherwise I don't know.

 

The problem exists that as long as Israel maintains it's hostile occupation of Palestinian territory there's coercion by Israel in forcing concessions by the Palestinians that would invalidate a "voluntary" peace agreement. This is clearly evident because the Palestinian Authority has offered a peace agreement in full compliance with the provisions of UN Security Council Resolution 242, plus more to meet Israel's security concerns, and even Hamas has recently revised it's "General Principles and Policies" to formally accept a two-state solution based upon a consensus.

http://hamas.ps/en/post/678/a-document-of-general-principles-and-policies

So today both the Palestinian Authority and Hamas are willing to terminate "all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of (Israel) and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force" based upon the borders prior to 4th of June 1967 if Israel will reciprocate and comply with the other provision of UNSC 242 that requires the "Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied" during the Six-Day War.

The Palestinian Authority has also recognized the issue of security for Israel based upon those borders and is willing to comply with the Israeli request that Palestine would be established as a "non-military" nation without an army that could threaten Israel. To comply with this the Palestinians have requested that US lead NATO forces be stationed in the "Palestinian" territory wherever they choose to prevent two things from happening. First is that the NATO forces would ensure against any rogue Palestinian attacks against Israel by militant Palestinians. No more "rocket attacks" against Israel coming from anywhere inside of the Palestinian territory. Additionally the NATO forces would prevent the invasion of Palestine by any other country (e.g. Israel) providing the national defense that the government of every nation is responsible for ensuring for the people of the nation.

While this proposal by the Palestinians meets every requirement for recognition of Israel's sovereignty, territorial rights, and right to live in peace without the threat of aggression against it Israel has turned it down. Israel's stated reason for rejecting the Palestinian peace agreement is based upon invoking a requirement for peace that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the formal recognition of Israel; national security for Israel, non-aggression against Israel, the territorial sovereignty of Israel, or of the right of Israelis to live in peace without a threat from the Palestinians. The demand by Israel can't even be met by the Palestinians because they don't have the authority to meet the demand.

The Israel demands that the Palestinians "recognize Israel as a Jewish nation" but the Palestinians can't do that. This is a definition of "national identity" that is exclusively the sovereign right of the Israeli people to determine. No other country can define the national identity of another nation because they don't have that authority. That is exclusively a sovereign right of the people of a nation to determine and no one else.

The Israeli government doesn't want peace with the Palestinians because that would mean they'd have to give up territory acquired by force and occupied in violation of international alw that they have no right to. They impose impossible preconditions" that have absolutely nothing to do with a peace agreement and continue their hostile occupation of the Palestinians in order to coerce the Palestinians into giving up more territory when Israel (excluding the West Bank, E Jerusalem, and Gaza) is already in possession of 60% of the territory that was allocated to the Palestinian Arabs under UNGA 181 based upon the Armistice lines created in 1949.

 

You support aggressive madmen? Did I understand you correctly? ... I apologize for the recurring question, but for me it's very surprising your support of aggressive madmen ..... However ... maybe your support for aggressive madmen is a national trait? ... Although ... you say that your relatives fought with madmen in World War II.

 

I don't think Nazis were on the side who fought against the madmen. Soviets were fighting against the madmen... Not Nazis

 

There's no dispute that the Israeli government exists. There's no dispute that the Israeli People (Palestinian Jews) exist. There's only one dispute and it's based upon Article 2 Paragraph 4 of the United Nations Charter that states:

http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charter/chapter-i/index.html

This is the basis for UN Security Council resolutions that repeatedly reference the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory but the use of force (war)" because it rejected the prior historical "right of conquest" that was formally replaced with the "right of self-determination" with the founding of the United Nations.

All of the territory claimed by Israel was acquired by the "use of force" to take territory from the provisionally recognized sovereign nation of Palestine that was created in accordance with Article 22 of the League of Nations.

Yes, Israel does exist and the Palestinian Arabs have finally admitted that it must pragmatically accept the existence of Israel but the issue of "territory" remains to be resolved. The obvious problem is, and has always been, that the Zionist agenda was to secure all of the territory of Palestine as a Jewish Nation and that's unacceptable. UN General Assembly Resolution was at least basically fair because it fundamentally divided Palestine into two territorial equal countries with Jerusalem as an "international" city knowing full well that neither the Palestinian (Israeli) Jew or Palestinian Arabs would accept Jerusalem being under the territorial control of the "other" side.

Today it's very unlikely that the Israeli government would be willing to accept the "fair division" of Palestine into two basically equal territorial nations and it's using military force to ensure that doesn't happen. The Israeli government even refuses to withdraw from E Jerusalem and that's going to be a mandatory requirement for peace with only one possible alternative. Both the Palestinians and the Israelis would be advised to accept the original proposal by the UN General Assembly and place Jerusalem under international control so that both Israel and Palestine could use Jerusalem as their capital without a conflict between their national interests.

It was always interesting that Israel repeatedly entered into peace negotiations claiming "no preconditions" and then had a laundry list of preconditions that the Palestinians were supposed to roll over and accept before Israel will even start to listen to any offer.

 

We won't start by sending any peaceful ships mate.
We'll start with missiles. Or to be more correct. 1 missile.

Take my advice. Choose your enemies more wisely.

 

Consider changing that to:

Remember When Nation Building Was A Bad Thing!​

We forgot that lesson. Going in and trying to "build a nation" in our image is costly and does not work. Someone profits or we wouldn't do it at all. Hint: Boeing. Lockheed.
The Military - Industrial - Government Complex, well paid lobbyist and campaign contributions too.

Moi

r > g

Make Pay Their Fair Share!

Nation build !
It's closer.
Free from metric. ​

 

There is a thing such as "State-sponsored Terrorism." The US accused the Soviet Union of State-sponsored Terrorism for decades.

 

And the US was the protector... The good guy...

 

Have you seen the new Rambo?
He's gone Bollywood.



I wonder if he will sing and dance!

 

ahahah... No dude... Thanks for lettin me know though...

 

As always you are only able to throw dirt on the West and accuse him of being evil for justified and unjustified things?
You are, as always, unable to see the crimes of Russia and before the USSR ... much more do you deny this and call it all as a lie and Western propaganda?

Am I getting you right?

Oh yes ... not to forget: yes my ancestors fought on the one side in a German penalty battalion after the superior found a joke of my grandfather about Hitler not really funny, and on the other hand in the French foreign legion against the Nazis in WW-2 with relatives in German concentration camps because he did that !

 

Don't much care about Russia's crimes unless they were committed against me.
I'll be damned if I am their God. Let them seek judgement elsewhere.

They'd kick my arse anyway.

 

Nice.

 

... and doing it the same way too, by backing the Contra Terrorists in Nicaragua war in Central America.

Anyway ... what is a terrorist and what is not?

Ask Catholic Ireish if the IRA were terrorists and ask the same the British!
Ask the Americans whether the Contras were terrorists and ask the same the Nicaraguan people!
Ask the Iranians if the Hezbollah in Lebanon are terrorists and ask the same the Israelis!
...

 

I'm gussing you are one of those 2nd-3rd generation Brits that eventually find their way to Syria, if you are naive enough to threat me with a Nuke you are probebly naive enough to trust 72 vergins in heaven. so far the intelligence level of our enemies tell me we made excellent choice in selecting them.