US jets bomb Assad tank convoy advancing on coalition base in Syria

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I knew there was something definitely wrong with Israel...

 

Gaza has been under a land, air, and sea blockade (an act of war) by Egypt and Israel since 2007 and so no one can go to Gaza without the permission of Israel or Egypt.

Israel has been a constant source of trouble for the United States because it's a nation based upon military conquest as opposed to the self-determination of the people in violation of the UN Charter that terminated the "Right of Conquest" at the end of WW II because of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan's military aggression to acquire territory during WW II. Israel is basically a nation that goes against everything the United States stands for and although much smaller than Russia is far more objectionable when compared to Russia from an American ideological perspective.
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No, It's evasion since not you or the mighty Buff come up with an answer why doesnt Turkey bust Gaza blockade open and "turns Israel to dust" all of you together

 

Like I said, barking dogs

 

Oxymoron: Preventing a genocide while being genocidal...

 

Barking dogs? I don't get it... When did you say that? Why? What do you mean?

 

Your partners will disagree with you on what the US stands for, there is really no buttom to Liberal hypocracy when you drill down to it....

 

Why doesnt Turkey send ships throu international waters to Gaza and cause war ?

 

Why do we do that when we got the "official apology" and got "paid compensations" for the damages Israel caused by the Israeli government?

We got your money and apology Gyros... Please

 

That is true, Europe will not declare war in Israel for any apparent reason currently.

There are those of us that hope that the UN Security Council will someday fulfill the role it failed to fulfill in 1948 by becoming involved in the "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict that's a continuation of the Jewish-Arab civil war that was addressed by UN General Assembly Resolution 181 that Israel refers to in it's Declaration of Independence. In UNGA 181 it called upon the parties, Arab and Jew, to work together to divide Palestine into a Jewish nation and an Arab nation but it also called upon the UN Security Council to take actions as necessary to ensure that happened. The Security Council did not fulfill it's responsibilities delegated to it by UNGA 181 but it still could today.

Without any declaration of war, and without any intent of starting a war, the UN Security Council can authorize a military force to occupy ALL of Palestine to provide security for both the Arabs and Jews living in Palestine. Israel would, as a member of the United Nations, be obligated to comply with this UN Security Council Resolution and allow the military forces designated (arguably it could be US lead NATO forces) to occupy and take control of all of the Palestinian territory or, it could violate it's treaty agreement under the UN Charter and go to war against the UN authorized military force of occupation (basically going to war against the United States, a war it would lose)..

Once the UN military occupation, providing security for both the "Israeli" Jews and "Palestinian" Arabs, is in place then both sides could be brought together to divide "Palestine" into a Jewish and Arab nation where no coercion or force is being imposed upon either side. They can draw the border between the two nations anyway they choose but until both sides voluntarily accept the border they would remain under UN military occupation.

That's the only real solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because lacking a voluntary agreement without any coercion between the "people of Palestine" there will never be peace. The UN General Assembly basically got it right in principle with UNGA Resolution 181 to end the Arab-Jewish civil war in Palestine but the failure of the Security Council to intervene has resulted in almost 70 years of tyrannical oppression of the Palestinian Arabs by the Palestinian (Israeli) Jews.
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I heard Israel is ready to go to bed with Saudis. What do you think?

 

Ill chip in another 50 shekels and an appolgey in advance if you kindly explain to Buff there is no war forseen between Turkey and Israel, he will need to get his kicks from another source.

 

The President only needs Congress to declare war not to authorize an attack on the forces of a foreign government

Korea and Vietnam? Those were called " Extended Military Engagements" resulting in what do they refer to them as? Conflicts I think

 

Politicians nonesense, buisness will be held in secret, its more like one night stand than an affair IMO.

 

That sounds like a judgment day solution, I guess they keep it in case Israel will indeed one day start mass etnic cleansing or killing, as well they should if we reach such point with a dictator, till then thou negotiations with willing sides sound better and much more practicle too.

 

I don't speak Hebrew... What is Shekel? Special kind of pastry that you don't suppose to eat in certain days?

 

The United States was based upon the ideological principle of Self-Determination and that's referenced in our Declaration of Independence. The ideology of Self-Determination was formally adopted in 1945 with the founding of the United Nations that formally rejected the "Right of Conquest" as a means for acquisition of territory.

That's why we see the phrase repeated again and again in UN Security Council resolutions that state, "Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and reaffirming, inter alia, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force," (from UNSC 2334 - http://www.jewishpress.com/news/bre...of-israel-resolution-2334/2016/12/24/0/?print ).

Even Israel acknowledged in 1949 that the territory under it's military control at the end of the Arab-Israeli war didn't belong to Israel when it agreed to the Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement in Article VI:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israel-jordan-armistice-agreement-1949

While Jordan signed the Armistice Agreement it only did so as the representative of the Palestinian Arabs that were one of the two parties involved in the conflict with the other being the Palestinian (Israeli) Jews. Like the Palestinian (Israeli) Jews the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan could not acquire any territorial rights in Palestine without the mutual consent of the "people" that included both Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian (Israeli) Jews. Both were occupying territory based upon the use of force in violation of the UN Charter.

Because all of the territory occupied by Israel was occupied by the use of force it is technically, under the UN Charter, a government without any right to territory which is why so many Middle Eastern countries, including Iran, object to it's existence. Only a voluntary agreement made without any coercion between the Palestinian Arabs and the Palestinian (Israeli) Jews dividing Palestine into a Jewish nation and an Arab nation will provide legitimacy for territory under Israeli control.

 

Aren't Saudis Arabs? Aren't Arabs supposed to be against Israel due to historical tensions and much more? I don't get it? What's going on? What do you think?

 

But you are wrong because Israel IS a UN member and IS a sovereign nation - its is legitimate as any other country, but sure not all accept it, I'd rather have this than their idea of peace.

 

Well I honestly think they too are aware one cannot reason with fanatics such as Hamas, their demands are just unrealistic, as a pebble that cannot go away - alternative routs are being considered, I dont know which but I can guess deals can be reached with just the WB for the time being and for that some normalization with some Arab states ? something like that I guess.
I'm sure the hate from the Arab street will continue thou, it shouldnt get in the way of agreements...

 

IS is a sovereign nation to Israel maybe but they are terrorists for the rest of the world Gyros. Please don't do this now. Don't support IS. They are terrorists.

 

Its Israeli currency, the other thing is "Mazza" and I would'nt reccomend eating that ever.....

 

But don't you think Saudis are backing ISIS? What happened to what you referred as Arab porn? I don't understand...

 

......I just highlighted the word "is"....or were you trying to be smart here ?

 

Oh sorry, I got confused. Before you explained it to me I just happened to google 50 shekels and found this:

"Deuteronomy 22:29
…28"If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, 29then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days. 30"A man shall not take his father's wife so that he will not uncover his father's skirt."

It sounds the sickest sh.t ever... What is this? Do they sell virgin daughters for 50 shekels? What the hell is wrong with these people man?