US scientists: Global warming pause 'no longer valid'

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33006179

It's a shame it didn't turn out to be true. Everyone would have been better off. Including the government. But it looks like there was no slowdown in global warming at all. Latest studies on the temperature record show that temperatures have continued to rise at the same trend they have been for the past 100 years.

Conservatives were quick to point out a so called global warming hiatus when most years failed to pass a major el nino peak in 1998. However such spikes in temperatures have been happening frequently along the hundred year trend. Those spikes would take decades to surpass in a regular year. The 1998 spike is no different.

Here is the complete temperature trend since 1970.

 

Soooooo now what?

 

Keep pushing forward on research for alternative energies. Subsidize it so it's an attractive offer for consumers. And in general do everything we can do reduce CO2 emissions.

 

how are we going to convince china and india the worse offenders and contributors to slow it down, burning coal significantly?
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/05/20/india-china-coal-idINKBN0O51CD20150520

 

Easy. China and India are both highly dependant on imported oil. They would absolutely love a cheap way to get off the oil drug. So lets pave the way in green renewable energy and sell it to them.

 

As soon as you design a cheap green energy source that's cheaper then coal and oil.....until then buy American or friends of America with representative governments.

 

intersting have you read this? power plants are the main target

they haven't the land to put the solar panels on like us, but they can put them on the roof tops.

 

That headline appears misleading, from your link:

Casting doubt is very different to definitely hasn't paused. The other interesting thing is they admit the data is inaccurate.

 

Bill crapola sources will only make you look....................well you know.

 

That ship may have sailed. China is installing MORE solar energy capacity NEXT YEAR than what the US has in TOTAL.

And the silly debate on climate change, which is a side issue compared to the much greater threat of peak oil, will have us stay in the energy stone age, because no one will be electable on the right if they don't chant "drill baby drill".

 

We're definitely coming from behind in the energy industry. But we're an economic powerhouse with some of the best tech researchers in the world. We could absolutely catch up and surpass if we made it our main focus.

We probably won't anytime soon but one can dream.

 

China is building a TON of solar plants actually. And they have plenty of wide open land perfect for a massive solar plant in the Taklamakan Desert. They also have some of the highest mountains in the world which would be perfect for wind energy.

India's situation is almost identical between the Thar desert and the Himalayas.

 

Gee. I wonder which one of us is showing crap data. The one who provides the complete trend or the one that shows as big of a window as they can get away with while still showing a flat trend.



You're trying to have us believe that the global temperature trend is the blue lines. Not the red line. In fact that's exactly what your picture is in this picture. A zoom in of one of the blue lines.

 

Don't know about India, but China is working diligently to reduce carbon emissions (and having success):

 

And they did it without asking the childish question of "Why should we if America isn't."

 

Apologize to your children and put your head between your legs...it was too late to do anything decades ago. Your grand children will probably bare the brunt of what we have done, but they will adapt as required. Still, I would move away from the coasts if possible so the family will have an easier time.

 

Since if we cut co2 by 60 percent today, the earth will continue to warm for the next several hundred years. So, why is land management not even in this discussion? What do more co2 hungry plants do, if addressed worldwide?

And until the doomsday people start hollering about this, I will retain my opinion of them, as being utterly myopic

The world still has two choices for its growing energy needs. Fossil fuels, nuclear. The amount from solar is just so small in comparison to what the world needs.

The climate is warming up without co2 being involved, for like it or not, the ice caps will be gone one day regardless of how much co2 is in the atmosphere. That is just the fact.

The upside of co2 levels is that when we hit 9 or 10 billion, we might then be able to feed those people for plants love warmer temps and higher co2 levels. Another fact.

I think people are just affected with hysteria.

 

China has already pledged an investment of nearly $300 billion in addressing their emissions issues. America? I have yet to see anything remotely approaching that being announced.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/25/us-china-pollution-idUSBRE96O01Z20130725

 

Did I sound hysterical?

I tried to state my opinions without hyperbole, That you disagree with my advice is fine.....I care little what happens to you and yours.

 

Pledges are nice. Actual action is better but China doesn't even have to pretend it's doing anything until the year 2030 while America has tied itself to an actual verifiable time table of action (that is accomplished before China is even required to start) so for inveterate knee jerk haters of America this must seem like a bit of a shame (right?).

As usual you only see what you want to see. A recent US/China agreement on reducing global warming emissions says that the US will cut it's green house gas out put by %26 to %28 below 2005 levels by 2025.

Meanwhile China has until 2030 before it has to do anything at all and even at that, it only pledges to make it's
"best efforts" to increase green technology by that time. http://news.yahoo.com/us-china-climate-deal-aims-prod-others-act-091201821--politics.html#

Like with Iran and their nuclear ambitions we see another Obama treaty long on hype and p.r. but short on real solutions of any sort.

 

Garbage in.....Garbage out.

 

You might, just once, note that temperatures are not rising evenly. Apparently (based on available data), surface temperatures are rising while troposphere temperatures are not. Now, how are troposphere temperatures measured? By satellites. Given that, let's look at the source of your graph showing no warming. By golly, these are all satellite data. Do you suppose that looking exclusively at one source of data might be, you know, skewed somehow? Maybe?

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So are you saying the rising periods are the garbage, or the falling periods? Or are you saying that ALL thermometers produce garbage?

 

Honesty at this point I've come to the realization that it's our population if anything.

If you want to seriously fix it we would need some actually birth policies or genocide. Either that or were gonna have to start adapting.

Personally the second one sounds a little more homocentric, I am a human afterall

 

Really Bill?

Where did the data from your chart come from? Were they averaged from multiple sources........or cherry picked to fit an agenda? Show us the sources Bill.

 

lol. Every single one of those organizations support AGW and reject the idea that there has been a pause in global warming. The chart I posted pulls data from the exact same temperature record. And the conclusions I stated are supported by those organizations you listed. No scientific organization supports the idea that there has been no global warming in 17 years. That's made up.