Video Proof The Democrats Cheated

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  1. TheImmortal

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    Michigan Secretary of State official asking to count illegal ballots with same signatures during audit

    https://www.reddit.com/r/donaldtrum...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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    allot counters with a STACK of uncreased ballots asserting they all had the same signature. The election official tells them she knows their concerns that they all have the same signature but “it’s not their job, at this time, to challenge ballots and to just count them and move forward.” The poll workers object several times and say they’re separating them out from the others. They’re told not to do that and to just count them and move forward.
     
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    Ooh look, another "bombshell" story from Trump supporters that will change the whole election ...


    Whatever.
     
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    There's nothing in that video that indicates the "extras" were for Biden or Trump. So, this video is useless for claiming the MI election was skewed for either candidate.
     
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    The official is just telling the counters to just count the ballots, that their role isn't to validate/invalidate, just to count how many at this point in the process. She even tells them that the signature issue will be addressed at a different stage, but just to count how many there are. This is part of a normal process, not some nefarious plot.
    Do you not understand how a process works? This is just a snapshot in the middle of one, taken out of context.
    Kind of like how if you typed "I'm not a democrat" and I reposted it eliminating the word "not". Trump supporters are so easy to fool, probably why you are Trump supporters. Spawns of the reality tv era.
     
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    Asherah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is shocking! By far, the biggest instance of fraud uncovered, if it turns out to be true that they were actually counted, and that they were ballots for Biden. 138 votes is a huge deal. This means Biden only won Michigan by 154,050 votes instead of 153,188.
     
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    Not saying it does. I’m saying it justifies a hand recount and signature verification of all ballots and envelopes.
     
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    Really? So would you mind showing me the report of the (apparently) at least hundreds of ballots from that Michigan county reporting they threw out stacks of ballots with the same signatures on them?

    Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
     
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    Without signature verification there’s no way to know how widespread the fraud was.
     
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    Asherah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where exactly do they fail to perform signature verification?
     
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    Agreed. I want to know that Biden won, fair and square, so I don't oppose a hand recount and/or signature verification. I think it would go a long way to starting the process of the country putting this to bed and moving on.
     
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    As usual...more bullcrap. When will these gullible Trumpers come to terms with the fact that the election was not stolen. Let’s face it...Trump was soundly bitch stomped by a “senile” old man and a woman. Deal with it.
     
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    Ah yes, Reddit will solve all our problems.
     
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    They counted the ballots in Georgia three times, making the Trump a three time loser.
     
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    Have any of you contacted Giuliani with this earth shattering story?
     
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    I have no idea why these counters are talking about the ballots having the "same signature".

    They're not signatures. These are ballots. Ballots don't have signatures. They're entirely anonymous.

    DePerno (Team Trump lawyer on scene) alleges (elsewhere) that the writing looks the same for the write-in candidates.

    This also explains why the official is telling them to focus on the Presidential audit count.
     
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    So, just another stupid and disingenuous Trumpazoid nothing burger. Before you can audit ballots, you have to count how many there are to start with, so after the VOTES have all been counted, spoiled ballots rejected, etc. there is a check total that matches the original total. Trumpazoids just cannot comprehend such basic audit procedures. These poll workers evidently wanted to reject some suspicious ballots even before finding out the total number of ballots. But if their supervisor had not given them the correct instructions, as we see in this video, there would have been no original tally of the total number of ballots, and thus no way to verify that no ballots were added to or subtracted from the total afterwards. Trumpazoids have no way to understand such things, as it requires familiarity with the most elementary fact checking procedures.
     
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    That’s a reasonable explanation. But it also stands to reason that if the handwriting on the write in candidates is the same on multiple ballots, that would make those ballots invalid, including the presidential votes. Moreover, it also calls into question the accuracy (or even existence of) signature verification of the ballots originally.

    Does it not?
     
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    Nobody CHEATED.

    Biden WON. It is OVER.

    See you in 2024.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/conspiracy-theories.63/
     
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    What part of secret ballot are you not getting?
    Have you never voted in America?
     
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    What are you talking about? It’s not a secret ballot. You sign the envelope it comes in lol

    What exactly do you think is the purpose for doing so?
     
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    But the envelope is not the ballot and you keep trying to claim the signature on the ballot is wrong
     
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    No I said that the argument provided by the other individual is valid. That it was not the signature of the voter, given it was only the ballots. But it was the write in candidates with the same hand writing. And if it’s true and hypothetically those ballots did have the same handwriting on them for write in votes, then logically the ballots must have been sent in by the same person or organization. If so, all of the ballots indicating such are fraudulent.

    Moreover it gives plausible grounds for envelope signature matching to voter registration records. If you don’t have as many unique envelopes with unique signatures as you have mail in votes, there’s a problem.
     
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    Well, I mean, if it's on reddit then that's all the proof anyone needs.

    Your collective fantasies never ever cease to amuse.
     
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    Actually, you sign the envelope that contains the envelope that holds the completed - and unsigned - ballot. Two envelopes - outer and inner - and only the outer is signed. Once the inner envelope is removed, and goes on to the second step of the process, the ballot is completely anonymous.
     
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    imrest my case
     

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