Vietnam - another success story.

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Consider: Vietnam has a population of 90 million, an extensive land border with China, and is about 20 times poorer than America. Yet not a single death, and less than 300 cases. Let that sink in.

    How did they do it? They went hard and went early, just like every nation which did it properly. They were in full pandemic mode when the West were still telling themselves it was just the flu. The Vietnamese Govt never went into denial mode, and took it seriously from the outset. They did everything right - closed borders, mandatory quarantine in dedicated facilities for anyone showing signs of illness, mandatory masks, etc etc.

    It's becoming increasingly clear that winning this particular war has nothing to do with the old definitions of power, nor with wealth.

    Keen to hear from the naysayers, as well as those sitting in admiration of the First Movers. Hit me up.
     
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    They never had crime in the USSR.. nor in communist China either..
    point being, when you are a totalitarian government.. there are many things you can be very effective doing.. none of them involve a free people.
     
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    I know people who've lived in Vietnam for many years. It's likely nothing like you think it is. They actually have more freedoms, in some areas.

    But if focusing on their 'lack of freedom' helps you feel better about your own situation, I recommend you continue!
     
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    Theres no gay people in Iran!
     
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    I’m happy for them. They don’t need any more poop sandwiches.
     
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    And when they loosen up, the virus will come back as is now happening in China and S. Korea.
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    "There is very little we can do to prevent this spread: a lockdown might delay severe cases for a while, but once restrictions are eased, cases will reappear. I expect that when we count the number of deaths from COVID-19 in each country in 1 year from now, the figures will be similar, regardless of measures taken."

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31035-7/fulltext
     
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    How can it 'come back' when it's not there? Their borders are remaining closed, and infected people are tightly quarantined until testing negative.

    Will say to you also ... if you need to find a down side for your own peace of mind, then please carry on.
     
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    I guess if S. Vietnam wants to become a hermit kingdom, it might work.

    It seems to be failing in S. Korea.
     
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    It probably only means heat and humidity hinder the spread of the virus.
     
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    13,000 dead Brazilians (and that is almost certainly an underestimate) say otherwise. The Northern part of Vietnam is less hot & humid than practically any part of Brazil.
     
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    Let's see, Vietnam did it right by closing borders, just like Trump did over Democratic objections. You can't compare a totalitarian dictatorship with a free nation in how they respond. It was a totalitarian dictatorship that gave us this virus.
     
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    Yeah, or maybe it's Buddha. Or magic.

    OTOH, it could be taking the virus seriously and acting accordingly. You know, good old science and strong leadership.
     
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    Let's not forget Singapore is ON the equator and is having its own struggles.
     
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    Another drowning man scoffing at the funny swimsuit of the man on dry land.

    This right here, is why power may shift in a post COVID world. People demanding life remain exactly as it was, before they'll take anything seriously. Having it so good, for so long, has crippled the West.
     
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    Globalism is a disaster. The more nations who can quickly and efficiently adapt to self-reliance the better.
     
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    You want to volunteer for the quarantine camps? :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-vigorous-attack-on-coronavirus-idUSKBN21D0ZU

    They certainly have experience running concentration camps. You can do things like that with no Bill or Rights.

    They restricted air travel over a month after Trump did.
     
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    I wouldn't hesitate to go into quarantine if it meant my country was able to eliminate the virus, and therefore save many lives and jobs etc. What sort of person wouldn't?
     
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    Almost any American.

    The virus will never be eliminated in the near future. If your country had zero cases all it will take is for one infected person to enter and you're back to square one.
     
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    When the first rumors of doctors being persecuted in China were being sniffed, all US borders and points of entry should have been closed tighter than a drum, and no US citizens allowed back into the country -- sacrificing them for the greater good.

    The modus operandi should been shut the doors until it is proven safe.
     
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    Eliminate from widespread community circulation. That's the goal.

    Now can you explain why you say 'almost any American'?
     
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    Of course. Every nation should have done the same, immediately. This whole thing could have been over by now if every nation had done it.

    I do think that citizens returning home can be accommodated though. We do it here via mandatory 14 days quarantine direct from airport (in dedicated facilities, and under police guard). Cases which have arisen out of this quarantine, and yes there are some, are well contained.
     
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    Few Americans would tolerate being put in a virus concentration camp, it is against our Bill of Rights. Thankfully we have the Second Amendment.
     
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    Oblama must have left his pandemic plan in Nam since Trump couldn't find it.
     
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    So they care more about some old law, than about the survival of their friends, family, and nation .. is that right?

    Or is it that they don't like being told what to do .. like rebellious children? Even when it's patently in their own interests?
     
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    It failed miserably with the influenza epidemic, Trump probably didn't want it.
     

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