Voters open to political revolution to redistribute wealth >>MOD WARNING<<

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Poll: most voters say they're open to a political revolution to redistribute wealth


Fifty-four percent of respondents to our online poll &#8212; which reached a sample of 1,884 registered voters nationally from Friday, January 29, through Sunday, January 31, 2016 &#8212; agreed that a "political revolution might be necessary to redistribute money from the wealthiest Americans to the middle class." Just 30 percent said they disagreed.
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An overwhelming number of Americans (54%) want a distribution of wealth and are willing to have a revolution to get it.

The game is rigged, and tomorrow's vote on the GOP's bill to protect bankers from committing fraud.

The wealth gap is far wider than ever before and with 1 in 6 Americans facing hunger, it's no wonder people are talking about class warfare.

But here's a quick and easy solution: a truly progressive tax system where the wealthy pay a higher percentage of their income. As of now, the loopholes reduce their tax rate to a fraction of what it should be.

 

The wealthy do need to pay more since they have more.

 

Taxing the wealthy is not the only thing that must be done. We need to address the lack of jobs in the private sector, and the lack of livable wages as well. Better wages means less welfare, which means less tax for everyone.

 

How does one verify the information as valid on an online poll? Such drivel must be dismissed as having zero credibility...

 

You do realize that when the tax commitment for the richest Americans was at 90% there 10 or more times deductions/loopholes than there are now, right?

It isn't taxes that is making the difference today, it is the crony capitalism both parties oversee.

 

Sounds like we need to get rid of the loopholes first to truly see where we're at. If that's not good enough then we raise taxes.

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Here's a novel idea.

Solve the root cause of the problem and the problem will go away.

 

Exactly, we need to raise wages to liveable wages.

 

What are the people going to do to actually earn that increase? You can't expect any sensible person to pay more without getting more. How exactly will America be able to compete in the global market if our wages are artificially inflated to ease liberal whiners? It simply will not help the situation...

 

After all the loopholes are covered, the poorest 20 percent of Americans paid an average of 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes and the middle 20 percent of Americans paid 9.4 percent. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, pay only 5.4 percent of their income to state and local taxes.

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Wages are being artificially deflated for the working class. Not surprisingly, the wealth gap is bigger than ever. The system is rigged and more and more hard-working people have had enough.

 

After 2 years of complete control, 4 years of executive and Senate control and 1 year of executive control, why does it take a Presidential election to get the Democrats to realize that their politicians are selling them up the river?

Also, through government the rich elites insulate their wealth and competitive advantage. Why is it that the proposed solutions are not only treatments of the symptoms, but the failed treatments of the symptoms that the wealthy have used to further insulate themselves from competition? Further regulation and taxes galvanize provide a stronghold for those already at the top of the hill.

 

Do you own or run a business? If not, why don't you start one, and just pay your people more money? You could be a part of the solution,instead of just saying that other people should be doing things. It's quite a lot more complicated than just "Raise the wages", you know. As for me, I'm investing in automation in my business, so I can get rid of people who don't even deserve what I'm already forced to pay them. I used to advocate for them, but they're mired in poverty mindedness. They, like you, want something for nothing, simply by ganging up as a group of bullies and demanding it. But what have they done to enhance their effectivness on the job, their productivity? Not enough I'm afraid.

 

Just to clarify, you think...


Higher taxes + higher labor wages = < jobs, > welfare = >taxes for everyone

I don't see the logic.

 

So successful people need to be punished and the unsuccessful rewarded?

 

And we can do it with a Chinese made magic wand available at Walmart

 

No, I don't want to own a business, I am a worker. Wages have not been raised to compensate with inflation, OR productivity. The facts on this don't lie....the minimum wage should now be around $24 per hour.



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No, once you raise wages, welfare spending can come down. It's common sense.

 

That's not what the poll asked or the respondents answered.

The question was: "In the next decade, a political revolution might be necessary to redistribute money from the wealthiest Americans to the middle class."

It's a question of means, not desire.

Again, that's not what the poll asked or the respondents answered.

It takes some seriously tortured "logic" to cobble together that fallacious conclusion, and barely over half of anything is hardly "an overwhelming number".

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Clinton 51.8
Sanders 36.3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep..._democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

But I really, really, REALLY want Crazy Bernie to win the Democratic nomination. Everyone knows he'll get crushed in the general election.

 

Wages will be irrelevant with the coming automation wave.

When you raise base wages the cost of living increases by the same margin.

 

That's true, which is why certain countries are experimenting with a basic income for everyone, working or not. Cost of living increases mostly because of gentrification and building housing nobody who lives there can afford.

 

France forced to drop 75% supertax

It works so well.

 

No, it is taxes. The current tax code incentivizes those at the top to take the money out of the corporation for the individual (themselves) and not re-invest. If we change the code to incentivize the investment in not just physical capital, but in their workforce, then the distribution would change. The way it is today the distribution of profits is skewed because those at the top have been able to buy legislation that changed the tax code to allow them to take the money out for their own personal gain, at the expense of the workforce. Again, that is good for the individual, but bad for the overall economy. This IS the crony capitalism you mentioned.

There were not more loopholes when the brackets were at 90%. Thats a myth. If you look at ETR's historically, they have dropped significantly for those at the top. And if you look at overall tax receipts, you will see that the tax burden has shifted almost 180 degrees from Corporations to the Individual.

 

It worked just fine in our country...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-would-you-feel-about-a-94-tax-rate/

 

VOX conducting a poll about wealth distribution is like a gay bar conducting a poll about marriage equality. lol

 

Because the system is rigged, and I get that. The entire tax code is constructed to be that way by the same people who will not let it be changed. All your babbling changes nothing. Rational thinking would be to make the tax code system simple and comparable, and scrap the old way rather than add more BS on to it, but the things like Sanders continues to claim he is for is raising the tax commitment on the rich, which he is incapable of delivering and will do little to nothing because of the way the tax code is already set up. As long as democrats and republicans are in control that will not change.

 

Read what I wrote above and add to it for the bold, horse(*)(*)(*)(*)! Everything was tax deductible back then. My mother saved receipts on toilet paper for the love of Pete. They took away a lot of deductions but it still continues with the richest of the rich. How do you think they get away with a tax commitment, but many of them actually paying less that 3% or even nothing at all?

Yes the tax code is a joke, but thinking that raising the taxes on the rich will fix everything is a pipe dream. The most important thing about that fantasy is the two party scam will never stand for it. But keep on rooting for those charitable democrats, the champions of the poor, and they will still keep porking you in the ass with your consent.

 

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