Was Covid-19 a bioweapon?

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Purposefully bio engineered and released by the Chinese government for political and economic reasons?

    Not a conspiracy theory I'm not even using those links. After much protection from American democrats and fake media we can now safely say that the virus came from a lab in Wuhan China. So then how did it spread?

    My position is very simple. If Covid materializes in a lab in central China, a country of 1.4B people and spreads naturally from person to person there would have been tens of millions of cases and millions of deaths.

    So why only 188,000 documented cases and 5788 deaths?
    https://covid19.who.int/region/wpro/country/cn

    If the virus spread normally in a country of that many people would there not have been millions of cases and deaths before the government even identified the problem? The USA has 78 million documented cases of Covid!

    So why so few documented cases and deaths? The only explanation is that the virus was carefully released on purpose in a military attack. Anybody have a better explanation?
     
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    The Chinese are fibbing?
     
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    What political and economic reasons? What benefits (and significantly, predictable benefits) do you imagine China has gained from the pandemic?

    And if it was planned, why would they choose to spread it from their own lab in the middle of China? Wouldn't it make more sense to seed it in the countries they'd be targeting? And if they did release it in China, how would they have been able to restrict the number of people actually infected.

    What about China under-reporting their COVID statistics, both as policy and due to lack of resources and communications across much of the country?
     
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    No.

    I’m glad we had this discussion now stop spreading conspiracy theories.
     
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    What conspiracy theory?
     
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    Youre posting evidence that it was a “bio weapon”. It’s not. So stop it. Stop posting misinformation.
     
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    1. Political and economic? To defeat Donald Trump the only president who has challenged them and replace him with a compromised senile moron who will do their bidding. China has not been hurt by this at all they were able to host an Olympics.

    2. That's what I'm saying they did not "seed it" in the middle of the country if they have only had 5700 deaths. That's the point of the thread entirely.

    3. I am bringing attention to their reporting of Covid statistics. They are not a third world country any longer and it is completely unethical and unhelpful to the rest of the world for them to constantly lie about Covid in their own country.
     
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    It(Bioweapon) is the only explanation for them having so few cases and deaths. That means they seeded the virus on purpose. Or, or they have completely lied about their Covid numbers and our media and politicians have failed to call them on this.

    Why is a country allowed to engineer and release on purpose or through negligence a virus that causes great harm, death and economic hardship on an entire world but nobody punishes them for it? Nobody confronts them about it?
     
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    Did they know, in advance, how Trump would handle the crisis? Had he handled it differently, he could have won the election easily.
     
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    They knew it would cause economic damage. We had record low unemployment with low inflation and interest rates and no president loses reelection with an economy like that.

    While Trump did not handle the crisis well politically he handled it fine practically. So keep pushing that lie. When Trump left office we had testing, 200 million tests has been done. We had 3 vaccines, all the ventilators we needed and other supplies.
     
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    Or more likely strict public health measures means they will have fewer COVID deaths. And once again stop spreading conspiracy theories. You have no proof COVID 19 is a bio weapon.
     
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    China had just made a trade deal with the US. Why would they release a virus when it would so negatively effect their trade partner? It’s basic common sense questions like this that show you have no proof this was a bio weapon. Stop spreading misinformation.
     
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    Why would the release of a virus be expected to bring down Trump. I would have honestly expected him to thrive as a "war" President and even after the fact, it isn't at all clear that Covid did more harm than good to his campaign.

    The Summer Olympics in China were held but were an anaemic version that would have been economically and politically much less successful than a normal Games would be. Also, even that going ahead was on a knife-edge for a long time. Again, I don't see how any of that could have been predicted prior to the pandemic breaking out.

    Lots of things have happened around the world as a result of Covid, good, bad and indifferent and I'm not sure any of them could have been predicted beforehand. If anyone intentionally released the virus, they couldn't have had any real idea what the impact would have been on anything.

    But then why is anyone talking about the Wuhan Lab at all? That is because the first cases were identified in that area. If the virus had been seeded elsewhere, none of us would have even heard of the lab and wouldn't be talking about China as the source at all, intentional, accidental or natural.

    So you're saying they couldn't be misrepresenting their Covid states because that would be unethical but they could have intentionally created and released the virus in the first place? :confused:
     
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    I think it's harder to argue that it is not.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Too many coincidences.
     
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    Bio-weapon and/or Chinese fibbing are the only two reasonable explanations that I can come up with.
     
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    Too many coincidences or too many people maki my patterns based on incomplete information? It’s a problem people have, people make assumptions based on incomplete info. This pattern recognition is important but we don’t really see them. We make them up. So we have to self reflect to figure out what’s the right thing to do.
     
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    What proof do you have to make this statement? Cite any credible source.
     
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    Democrats sure do love their labels... it's the Alinsky way, ya know... ;)

    Thus, now they label anything that they disagree with as a "conspiracy theory" because people have been brainwashed to think that "conspiracy theories" are bad things...

    Even IF this were a conspiracy theory... SO WHAT??? Numerous conspiracy theories have turned out to be true over the years... Just take a look at the "conspiracy theory" that "two weeks to flatten the curve" would turn into "forced vaccinations & vaccine passports"... Guess what, now you've been witnessing forced vaccinations and vaccine passport systems coming to fruition... Hmmmmmmm... just a "conspiracy theory", eh???

    So Democrats can stop with the Alinsky tactics... they don't work on me.
     
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    The argument that it was made in a lab is much more credible than the idea that it was passed from a colony of bats. Whether it was an accidental release or was intentional is still pretty open. I think it was an accidental release.
     
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    Yes, and good evidence at that. You don't question the fact that China, a country of well over a billion people closely packed together) has had virtually no cases/deaths meanwhile the rest of the world has had a different experience with it?

    It seems to me that the most sensible conclusions for that fact are either China used COVID-19 as a bioweapon or China is flat out lying about their numbers.

    What a riveting counterargument... super strong...

    No.

    It's not.
     
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    Translation from Liberal to English: The fake news media has not told me to believe that COVID-19 is a bio-weapon.
     
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    I'm saying either or, they planned it or totally misstated their Covid numbers. Most likely the later but my problem is why nobody is calling them on it. They take a big crap on the rest of the world and we do not punish them because they just happened to not be white?

    The virus came from that lab! It is a super virus(Gain of function) made on purpose to be more deadly and more infectious. We have substantial reason to believe that despite the attempts by big tech and the fake media to suppress any speech to that effect.

    The Chinese either on purpose or through pure negligence allowed that hyped up virus to infect hundreds of millions of people around the world and it has no effect on China's relations to the rest of the world?
     
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    Simple. I can use basic questions. Why would
    China release the virus if it was a bio weapon? Why would they do that? What kind of evidence are we seeing and from whom? Why aren’t more experts reporting on this and questioning official narratives? The fact is basic common sense questions trump these larger more specific ones. The answers all indicate there isn’t any proof other than old wives tales.

    Nope. If there was then there would be signs of tampering. There’s no evidence to suggest there was this kind of gain of function tampering. There’s nothing substantiationing those claims.
     

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