You’re making an unsubstantiated generalization that has no bearing whatsoever ever on this case. It doesn’t matter what Floyd had done or who he was previous to the encounter. He did nothing to warrant being murdered, except being black according to comments like yours. Unless you feel cops are capable of being executioners of an untried black man without the rights of a white man, your comment has little relevance.
Maybe you should supply some evidence to support your “most” comment. It’s just used to draw attention away from what really happened.
Let’s see… The black girl that was killed while trying to stab another girl, Walter Wallace Jr that triggered protests in his killing even though he was also armed with a knife, Demetrius Stanley who pointed a gun at officers before he was killed, Dominique Mulkey was killed after an armed robbery, Kevin Peterson was armed and shot by police as well, Miles Jackson was killed by police once a gun was discovered in his waistband and a struggle ensued for the gun, how many examples do you want?
Was that enough or do you want more examples? Now humor me and quote my comment where I suggested that being black was an excuse for his killing. Oh wait, let me guess… You’re one of those who can’t back up his claims
If you would like more proof that most police shootings of black men are not considered unarmed here is another source you may like but I doubt you’ll read it all the way through. People like you don’t like real information. https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/04/the-truth-about-police-shootings-in-america/
I honestly believe that Chauvin was guilty of both manslaughter and regrettable stupidity! But he was not guilty of murder. Chauvin had pinned Floyd down on the ground while the arresting officers waited (and WAITED) for emergency medical techs to arrive after the police had told them to come, because Floyd was demonstrating all these physical problems associated with being buzzed on drugs, violently fighting police trying to put him in the police vehicle, etc. Truth? As I've suggest a dozen times, Chauvin should have made the decision to let the police/EMTs back at the jail deal with Floyd's physical and/or mental problems. If Chauvin had simply placed Floyd in the police cruiser and, without further involvement, had him driven away to the station, none of this would have happened.
I do not think there was intent to kill. I think he should have been convicted of manslaughter and been sentenced to 8-12 years.
You implied that lynchings were justified, the same way you argue that killings on blacks are "justified" now
I agree. The bootlickers don’t care about race. The only time I have ever heard any of them demand “accountability” was when they feel their trumplican party members were murdered.
M maybe you can quote these comments. And I do think killing violent armed blacks is justified. Just as I think killing violent armed whites is also justified. I feel anyone who poses a threat to people should be killed before they are able to carry out said threat.
The keyword is "depraved" Chauvin was demonstrably aware of Floyd's condition and he apparently did not CARE that he was killing him. That's not at all that far from simply saying "I'm going to kill this guy," and then doing it.
Reread your post and understand that my opinion is that your meaning is clearly implied but not explicitly stated. Anyone over 6 should be able to understand that.
Quote the comment you are accusing of me justifying lynchings. Show off your 6 year old skills if you’ve got them
If I had done what Chauvin did I would be charged and likely convicted of manslaughter, and my sentence would be around 10 years (5 with good behavior), statistically speaking, of course. Treating him more harshly for political correctness and/or to appease the mob is just as unjust as it is when we commonly treat cops less harshly for similar crimes. We cant fix those by piling it all onto Chauvin... I think theres a lot of people out there who are looking to replace the justice system with a vengeance system.
I certainly see how many people see it that way Alek and I respect the jury who did convict on 2nd degree murder as they all sat through the entire trial and heard both sides. The fact that Chauvin did not really speak up for himself during either the trial r at the sentencing hearing was probably a factor in h8s getting such a harsh sentence.
"Depraved indifference", if applicable here, seems to be allowed for a charge of 3rd-degree murder in Minnesota, under their State Statute 609.195. A charge of 1st-degree murder, however, requires proof that a killing was premeditated. A charge of 2nd-degree murder requires proof that a killing was done without premeditation, but, knowingly, so that death was likely outcome. A charge of Manslaughter requires proof that a killing was done with recklessness -- without intention to cause death. Thus, it seems like Chauvin's conviction of anything having to do with 1st-degree murder will eventually be overturned. Then, Chauvin will probably be retried and then found guilty of either 3rd-degree murder, or, perhaps more likely, Manslaughter of one variety or another.
Vengeance IS justice if the victim is clear and well-known. It's just useless and about as satisfying as a steaming dog turd under glass to most people. It also usually appears as pointless cruelty to most people outside of the situation. The major purpose of a harsh sentence, however, is deterrence and here I think that may work. Very few cops are going to do anything this brutal in the future without a good deal of thought.l
