Was it Right for Trump to Pull the US out of the Paris Agreement?

Lying in monosyllables and compulsively repeating them makes them neither more credible nor tasteful.

 

Your point is noted. However, it seems that the big focus on wind and solar, which do not work on still days or at night, is rather myopic. What happened to hydrogen as a fuel ?

I know, the Hindenburg...however is perfectly safe and controllable in small packages. Not talking about reviving the trans-Atlantic dirigible business.

 

If Trump wasn't right, then the fault lies with Obama for being so wrong in not getting the Paris agreement through Congress so that any future president couldn't just do what Trump did...

 

Don't bother, these people prefer to spend $6 Trillion on an Iraqi Oil War. Their blinders are shadowing the very existence of any credibility.

 

You make an excellent point .. Trump wants to cut HUD by six billion dollars,.. and privatize the Air Traffic Controllers.. Crazy stuff.

 

Its voluntary... Many in Congress are no brighter than Trump.

 

Trump is foolish. No one is going to build new coal-fired power plants. Natural gas is cheap and abundant and cleaner.

 

The industry is already putting R&D money into transitioning from natural gas to wind and solar, principally battery and "smart grid" technologies.

The US uptick in mining "met coal" - metallurgical coal, a special type of coal that is used in steelmaking - is a reflection of overseas events that makes it temporarily profitable, and in no way augers a return to large-scale mining for electricity generation.

No credible economic forecaster is predicting a devolution to coal.

 

Despite all the evidence to the contrary?

 

Wind energy is on target to provide 10% of US Electrical power by the year 2020. The Federal Government Wind Vision is seeking 20% of power from wind by 2030. Currently it's at 7%. It is head-over-heels, the most rapid electrical generation growth sector. The state of Iowa now gets 30% of it's electricity from wind.

https://energy.gov/eere/wind/wind-vision

• Wind energy is available nationwide. The Wind Vision Report shows that wind can be a viable source of renewable electricity in all 50 states by 2050.
• Wind energy supports a strong domestic supply chain. Wind has the potential to support over 600,000 jobs in manufacturing, installation, maintenance, and supporting services by 2050.
• Wind energy is affordable. As wind generation agreements typically provide 20-year fixed pricing, the electric utility sector is anticipated to be less sensitive to volatility in natural gas and coal fuel prices with more wind. By reducing national vulnerability to price spikes and supply disruptions with long-term pricing, wind is anticipated to save consumers $280 billion by 2050.
• Wind energy reduces air pollution emissions. Operating wind energy capacity avoided the emission of over 250,000 metric tons of air pollutants, which include sulfur dioxide, nitric oxide, nitrogen dioxide, and particulate matter, in 2013. By 2050, wind energy could avoid the emission of 12.3 gigatonnes of greenhouse gases.
• Wind energy preserves water resources. By 2050, wind energy can save 260 billion gallons of water—the equivalent to roughly 400,000 Olympic-size swimming pools—that would have been used by the electric power sector.
• Wind energy deployment increases community revenues. Local communities will be able to collect additional tax revenue from land lease payments and property taxes, reaching $3.2 billion annually by 2050.

 

I posted on wind, now let's talk solar. Solar power generation, be it from individual rooftops or pedestal systems, to power generation on a larger scale, produces at it's peak on hot summer days, when the demand is most needed. In other words, during peak loading periods. As such, a strong solar mix is advantageous to Utilities, as a peak load contributor. Additional power plants are almost always built to provide peak load, and these additional plants are always the driver of increased electrical costs. As such, solar is very instrumental in holding down rates for all electrical consumers. Here's a link (there are many others).

https://solect.com/reducing-peak-demand-solar-energy/

 

Don's word is like holy writ to us devotees, he can do no wrong..
Don in prophecy-



Jesus said- "And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt 10:30)

 

The Democratic Party cultists are entirely dependent upon the 2 most uneducated demographic groups, blacks and Latinos. Without high school dropouts the Democratic Party would barely qualify as a 3rd party.

 

Trump has done absolutely nothing to prevent developing wind or solar power. The assertions that he has are just the typical tactic of lying.

 

Climate change "scientists" do not have a clue as to what the temperatures will be 10 to 20 years from now, with or without the Paris Accord. All they know is how to siphon money out of climate-change bureaucrats by writing papers that agree with the bureaucrat's fear-mongering money-grabbing globalist power grab.

A tree is known by the fruit it bears, and climate-change "scientists" bear rotten fruit. Since the 1970's, none of their predictions have come true, and none of them ever will. That's what makes them the rotten fear-mongering pseudo-science hucksters that they are; deserving of nothing but scorn and disrespect. We would all do our long-term health better by buying snake-oil from a snake-oil salesman than from buying into the "science" being propagated from the climate-change quacks masquerading as "scientists".

Other than that, I have no real strong opinions on the matter.

 

If scientists are right about the dangers of adding to the CO2 greenhouse effect then this agreement didn't go far enough and we shouldn't have pulled out.

 

Your pretending that "without high school dropouts the Democratic Party would barely qualify as a 3rd party," is silly, of course, but it was the Democratic Party's failure to appeal to less-educated blue-collar White males, especially older ones, that placed the nation in its current plight. That demographic felt they were being neglected and bought into the reality tv entertainer's shtick.

 

This is an excerpt from an article about a new solar plant in Morocco.
"The plant produces enough heat to generate electricity all day with enough left to heat up huge vats of salt to around 400 celcius. This is used to turn water into steam and generate electricity in turbines long after dark. Electricity is not stored, heat is." http://sciencevibe.com/2016/02/08/morocco-has-fired-up-the-worlds-largest-solar-power-plant/
This plant can store heat for several days.

 

It was the the correct choice for him for a few reasons. The first is that he promised to do it during the campaign. The second because something of that magnitude should have been sent to the Senate as a treaty not as some kind of gentlemans agreement between international leaders.

 

It was prophesized?!!! What did america do to deserve such punishment from the big guy in the sky?

 

This from today's Sun-Sentinel and it's such a left wing paper, I was surprised to see this. Wish I could have found the actual editorial cartoon.
Two donkeys
1st donkey angrily says "Appalling. The U.S. won't give billions to a non-binding, unratified, unenforceable climate agreement that permits the worst polluter to do nothing for 20years."
2nd dumbfounded donkey "Where's the common sense?"

 

I couldn't stand the way Obama communicated.

 

It was never ratified as a Treaty so we can pull out at will, if we followed proper procedure and ratified it then these other nations have a right to complain. But a better option to me is adaption that is as sea levels rise and such develop an action plan to relocate citizens inland to higher ground and various industries and services with a century long strategy. And work on genetically engineered crops and other means of food production so we in the USA can feed our people as cheaply as we can since hungry people tend to cause trouble.

 

Well, Obama sure didn't talk like a 4th grader.

 

Clearly justified.