Was the Big Bang actually an "In the beginning"...

Genesis seems to easily duplicate the evidence we now have about what happened since time began ticking:

Gen 1:1 says a Big Bang beginning did happen.
Gen 1:2 says the formless disk of rocks rotation the Sun was void of global shape, which was true.
Gen 1:3-5 says the Dark Cosmic Age existed before there was any light in the Universe.
Gen 1:6-8 describes the forming of an atmosphere above and waters below.
Gen 1:9-10 describes "all the waters under heaven gathered together into one place," which was a Pangea-like truth.
Gen 1:11-13 explains that the Plant Kingdom came before the Animal Kingdom, which was true.
Gen 1:14-19 tells us that God assigned the Sun and Moon and Stars to keep time on Earth. ("made" in Hebrew means "assigned.")
Gen 1:20-31 explains about the animals and finally, man, made to image "Reality," mentally, in the form of Truth inside his mind.

Chapters 4, 5, and 10 explain the correspondences of the Genealogy with the species of Paleontology:





Genesis 6,7,8,and 9 tells that a great "flood" out-of-Africa took place when all other mankind went extinct, as did happen not 40 "days" ago, but 40,000 years ago.




On and on, every verse can be related to correspond with science and facts.

 

How will it affect your beliefs, IF, these physicists who have posited an eternal universe win out, eventually? Which means there wasn't a Big Bang?

 

The Big Bang seems pretty certain right now.
I am using what I know, today, as I read the Bible closely, to see if it makes rational sense.

People have always done that.
But never before did they have Empirical Science to explain what was Real,so they could never prove anything was True.
Hence, I believe the evidence for a Big Bang is very certain and has been correlated by a number of other observations since Hubble exspoused the theory in 1940.

If the Facts were to be changed because new proofs were developed, the the first sentence in the Bible would have a terrible effect on my thinking.
But, on the other hand, the opposite is the case now.

 

I take my understanding of the Big Bang without information from the Bible.

 

the Bible doesn't say IN the Beginning.

 

Actually, it does.

 

So do I.
My point is that the Unconscious mind is a potential source for having told writers about these ideas in every generation, as the same story was explained over and again in different books of the Bible.

In the beginning the observation of wave functions collapsed them into a reality which we call Universe.
The Unconscious mind knows this because it remembers everything man has ever done or figured out.
The Unconscious mind is born again in every new baby, and genetically, it was here many times as it loins the other Unconscious minds in humanity, forming a great Shepherd over the human race.

Only now has hard science recognized the evidence for this ancient Third Eye, as the book, "Subliminal, How the Unconscious mind rules us," explains.

 

The Bible claims the word is flat. Is the Bible accurate in it's description of a flat earth?

Yes or no.

 

It does say that...?
Where?

 

Christianity
[edit]The king seeing all the earth


Shows why you couldn't see all the kingdoms
"Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth… reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.” Only with a flat Earth could a tall tree be visible from "the Earth's farthest bounds" — this is impossible on a spherical earth.
Theological rebuttal: The strength of Daniel 4:10-11 as an argument for a flat Earth is considerably reduced by the fact that this part of the Book of Daniel recounts a dream experienced by the Persian king during a fit of madness. Thus, it does not necessarily refer to an actually existing tree or make any statements about real cosmology. This fact would seem to indicate that biblical literalists do not even know how to read the Bible properly. It also ignores that the New Testament claims that the Devil showed Jesus the entire world from the top of a mountain, which would not be possible on a spherical Earth:
[edit]Jesus seeing all the kingdoms
Matthew 4:8: "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world"
Luke 4:5: "And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time."
Theological rebuttal again: The strength of using Matthew and Luke as flat Earth claims is reduced by the fact that "Kingdom" is a human construct. If you classify all the places on Earth you can't see from that particular location as "Not Kingdoms" such as barbaric tribes and non-monarchies, it can be fitted within that description. However, how the devil knows those places are not ruled by Kings (Again, the concept of "King" is also a human concept) is not exactly clear.
[edit]The earth is a circle
Isaiah 40:22: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." Indeed, this quote is used to prove that Bible claims that the Earth is spherical. Some scholars point out that Isaiah never uses the Modern Hebrew word for sphere Kadur anywhere[16]. It is not clear whether this is relevant, seeing as the interpretation of the word Kadur in the Bible is disputed.[17]
[edit]"Four Corners"
Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
Revelation 7:1 "And after these things I saw four angels standing on four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree." As with the Daniel quote, this cannot be taken literally; the events described in Revelation are a series of visions, rather than an accurate description of the world. Another interpretation of this verse is that four corners of the earth don't refer to literal four corners but to cardinal directions, which is further supported by the description of the four winds which are commonly referenced by their cardinal direction.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

 

So these are the verses you believe say the Earth is flat?
Stretching some point here, whatever it is.

Which verse would you like to explain here more closely?

 

The universe could be eternal either way. The Big Bang has been hypothesized as a change in the state of an eternal universe rather than as a creation event.

 

Scientifically speaking...?

 

The science doesn't back the idea that at some point nothing existed. We can only see so far back and as far as we can tell, there was always something. No beginning.

 

No.
That is not true.

They can not examine what HAPPENED at the split second of the Big Bang, and they don't think they will ever understand what was taking place then.

The WAY the Big Bang proceeded is not to say "nothing existed" or not.
Time began at that Big Bang so we know it was 13.5 billion years ago.
We just can not say what was going on in the first moment.

 

no it does not..............

 

The KJV starts with, "In the beginning...."

That's Genesis.

What does your bible say?

 

Does a sphere have corners?

 

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים

 

Which, when translated from the Hebrew means......?

"In the beginning , God created the..."

Thank you for that verification.

 

I didn't know you believed in that stuff.

Well, it might be true, there might be something there, but who can say? If the unconscious mind is imperfect there's no guaranty that it will give any better information to this generation than to the last one.

 

some religions say the big bang is just the begining of a new cycle

bang
expand
contract
repeat

 

Genesis 1 KJV - In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - Bible ...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1...KJV


I do get kind of tired of those that criticize what they lack a basic understanding of.
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reva

 

it is a bad translation.............the Bible wasn't written in English.... I get tired of people who think they know stuff they don't

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no it doesnt

 

Let me help you out here. Paste the Hebrew text you posted into Google Translate and see what comes up. Can you do that and let us know?