WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

I don't think lethal force was necessary in this case. The cops messed up. They took the neighbors word for fact and then jumped the gun, and now the guy is dead.

As for "white lives". You are right, - white people couldn't care less about stuff like this.

 

He was putting it down but surely you can see that isn't what it looked like to the cover officer?

 

The nature of the neighbour's complaint is irrelevant, they were just going to have a quick word with him about noisy video games, they only drew their guns when he answered the door pistol in hand. They didn't jump the gun, this was the quick and the dead, if he was intent on shooting them they would both have been dead if the cover officer had not fired.

 

No. That's the thing. They took the neighbors word for it, and they neighbor said it was a domestic dispute which was possibly violent. That turned out to be complete nonsense.

If they thought it was domestic dispute (which it wasn't), they should have called his phone and tell the guy to come outside to talk about it. Instead they banged on the door in the middle of the night, and they guy had no idea who it was. He knew people had been banging on his door in the middle of the night before. When he realized they were cops, he tried to set the gun down on the floor, which is when the other cop shot him dead.

If his intent was to kill cops, then he would not have opened the door and stand there fully exposed.

 

So, can you explain to me why the other officer (the one that was allegedly "threatened") didn't pull his weapon or even shout out that the guy was aiming at him? Surely, someone would instinctively react when they feel threatened.

 

Apparently you haven't read Marx. Marx never speaks of black racism. Rather the opposite. Obviously, it is precisely those who hate Marx who patronize every crazy person in BLM.

 

Essentially the nature of the call is irrelevant, the cover officer didn't pull his sidearm until he saw the suspect was concealing the pistol in the small of his back. How would the police have known the suspect's phone number? I don't doubt the gunman was trying to surrender but to the cover officer it looked like he was bringing the gun around towards the contact officer.

 

The contact officer does draw, watch the footage again, he didn't have time to shout to the cover officer not to fire, this was a matter of microseconds.

 

I'll accept that at face value. I cannot watch, over and over, a man being murdered by someone that took an oath to serve and protect.

 

What footage did you watch? No one was murdered, this officer genuinely thought the gunman was about kill his oppo and his belief was reasonable. YOU accept that the officer did not seek to kill anyone that night. YOU accept that the officer genuinely fired to save the contact officer's life. So how can it be murder?

 

I've already posted a gazillion times that he overreacted. I understand it was a millisecond decision but it was wrong. You can try to argue your point forever, but, the fact remains that he shot that man in cold blood.

 

But you were saying murder? You admit it wasn't murder, he shot him because he genuinely thought he was about to kill the contact officer. That's not cold blood, the man had a gun and appeared to be about to shoot his oppo.

 

You clearly excuse any kind of egregious behavior by LEOs by ignoring evidence, making up things that didn't happen and overlooking the awful precedent that sets for more cops to feel they are able to get away with anything.

The cop OVERREACTED and MURDERED the guy. Nobody sees it your way except you and I'm done having this circular conversation with you.

 

No, you're seeing things here that don't exist, there was no mens rea, there was no malice aforethought so it is not murder. There is no wider context for this incident, any officer could have been faced with it and done the same thing and been completely justified. You wouldn't say he'd overreacted if the contact officer's footage showed the gunman drawing a bead on him. The awful precedent here is that people try to judge police officers for making split second, life and death decisions with the benefit of hindsight.

And it's not wrong to point out that the Emperor has no clothes.

 

It is not irrelevant. They thought it was domestic dispute, and the least they should have done is listen by the door and confirm there was a dispute going on. Had they done that, they would have heard the noise was actually coming from a video game. At that point they could call the home owner and tell him they are outside and want to talk.

 

No, you can't do that, what if the violence was earlier and the video game was only being played afterwards? What if someone is lying bleeding to death behind that door whilst the attacker is now playing video games? How could they call the homeowner? Where would they get his telephone number from?

 

Yes, you can do that, and apparently cops are trained to assess the situation by listening. If someone is bleeding to death, its doubtful the attacker is going to open the door when someone knocks on it.

 

No you can't, don't be stupid (not a reference to your avatar), you have to check that everyone is alright in the address. If he hadn't have opened the door they would have been forced to break it down.