We All Owe Monica Lewinsky an Apology

What does lying in a civil matter have to to with an impeachment or federal investigation? You can't just conflate the two and take the lessor of two evils.
Lying to federal investigators is perjury. A FELONY Not a minor charge
Lying to a federal grand jury is perjury. A FELONY Not a minor charge
Clinton lied to a grand jury
He got caught
He was impeached for lying under oath

Clinton was also held in contempt of court by Judge Susan Webber Wright for giving misleading testimony in the Paula Jones case regarding Lewinsky and was also fined $90,000 by Wright. His license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas for five years; shortly thereafter, he was disbarred from presenting cases in front of the United States Supreme Court.

 

I have to give Bill a pass on this one. Being married to that battle axe, you have to feel a bit sorry for the guy.

 

If Bill couldn't sell that to a Federal grand jury, the House, or Federal investigators, with a battery of million dollar attorneys, what makes you think you can sell it here?

 

Geez. You responded to a post involving a 'crime of the country' over a possible perjury charge involving a civil matter. Where was the sedition, where was the espionage, where was the treason? and you talk about conflating?

He was acquitted because the senate was not convinced he even committed perjury at all so we can put that aside. The federal investigation was involving the special prosecuter looking for conduct for the impeachment, so you can put that aside.

All you have is the fine for contempt of court, and the loss of the law license reflecting this' crime of country'

 

Get a grip. It is sarcasm.

Not the brightest bulb eh...? No surprise there.

 

The **** is...oh nevermind...

 

Speaking of getting a grip
Why didn't you say something when I asked you

oops

 

Oh, so that what it comes down to huh. crimes of the century, treason, espionage, sedition?
Any other drama you want to bring into the equation trying to hide behind the fact you were wrong?
All I did was state the actual findings and the law. If your going to replicate some drama queen in your post, its better if you just do it in private.

 

Weird how everything seems to lead back too trump on every issue.

 

I was not wrong about squat. He has not been proven to have committed even perjury . He was acquitted of any wrongdoing whatsoever in the Senate trial, and that leaves a single citation of contempt of court and an ethical violation against the legal canon .

So it appears its you who has been the drama queen. Those are the actual finding and the legal conclusions in this affair. Prove differently or find something else to do with your time than post obviously wrong or irrelevant information.

 

Denying the obvious when caught red handed is the Clinton thing too do.
If Bill Clinton came out, and admitted too his affairl, he probably would have never been impeached. Instead you got nonsense like “depends on what the meaning of is, is.”
If Hillary Clinton came out m, and said “Yeah, I should have never used a home server, it was a mistake” Trump wouldn’t have been able to bludgeon her over that issue for the entire campaign. Instead of just being honest, the Clintons would rather commit self inflicted wounds, and get caught blatantly lying.

 

Back again with drama I see.
Heres a heads up for ya

Nobody said anything about confinement
(Drama & Deflection)

Nobody said anything about the Senate vote
(Drama & Deflection)

Nobody said anything about acquittals
(Drama & Deflection)

Nobody said anything about crimes of the century
(Drama & Deflection)

Nobody said anything about treason
(Drama & Deflection)

Nobody said anything about espionage
(Drama & Deflection)

Nobody said anything about sedition
(Drama & Deflection)

lol Jesus

So I'll write this slow.
He was CHARGED with perjury and impeached for PERJURY.
Can you follow that or does it need more explanation?

Lying to a Federal investigator is a Felony. Not a civil matter.
You still on track? Stay with me for the close. Here it comes.

If you don't know the difference between a civil proceeding and a presidential impeachment
You going to need a bit more education in that arena.

Anything else you need help with?

 

so you give Trump a pass for all the wives he cheated on too?

though Trump's wives were probably relieved, like let him get his sex somewhere else... please

 

Don't deflect and misstate the truth. You did not say anything about the Senate vote but I did. So that 'Nobody said' part was fabricated by you He was impeached and acquitted of perjury. That means 'no' to perjury. You saying anything different was you being a drama queen

Don't deflect and misstate the truth. You did not to say anything about confinement but I did. So that 'Nobody said' part was fabricated by you There was no underlying crime behind his giving false testimony and nothing in this affair came close a 'crime of the country' That was you being a drama queen .

You still following this? Stay with me now. You can do this.

Don't deflect and misstate the truth. You did not say anything about acquittal but I did. So that 'Nobody said' part was fabricated by you. He was acquitted on the only charge filed based a perjury charge. His contempt of court citation was not based on a charge he committed perjury. The judge cited him for giving false statements ( a different charge) and thereby breaching the rules of discovery in a matter before her court.

Don't deflect and mistate the truth. You did not say anything about sedition, or treason or espionage but I did. So that 'Nobody said' part was fabricated by you.
You needed a few examples of what 'a crime of the country' actually looks like because it sure as hell does not look like some false statements made in the discovery portion of a civil trial or false statements made to a grand jury called by a special prosecutor to investigate another false statement made in the discovery of a civil trial. You really are a drama queen!

You need to understand the difference between the phrase "nobody said' and the phrase "I did not say". You also need to understand that you are not the only one in any dialogue who gets to put boundaries around what is being discussed. I fully understand the difference between a civil matter, a criminal matter and an impeachment matter. When you make melodramatic and exaggerated statements. Then I will bring the discussion back into perspective by making a point that takes some of that oxygen out of it. They will rarely duplicate in tone or purpose or its an echo, not a discussion.

 

Give that Trump and his support have regularly rallys, legal actions, legally and fraudulently graft millions of people's money, tax free, and tge last I heard a week or so the Trumpies going to crown Trump President in this month!

How could it be possible to NOT have everything lead to Trump and his people since Trump is going to President with in just a couple of weeks?

 

Man, talk about slow.
(Nobody said means) it was never part of the subject matter.
wow, I actually had to explain that to you? lol
In this world its called deflection and drama
Meaning you brought all this garbage into the subject when I never claimed anything about them
Why
Thats what posters do when they are losing the point. They bring in garbage claims that have nothing to do with the point being made.
You brought in the garbage, I took it out.
When you're done regurgitating outside drama deflections to cover up you inability to follow the bouncing ball like confinement, the Senate vote, acquittals, crimes of the century, treason, espionage, and sedition, let me know.

If you think you can dispute one of my claims instead of vomiting off topic phrases and excuses, go for it.
The only person your fooling is yourself. Its really laughable.

Or maybe you can use your own imagination instead of trying to reword everything I provide. Or is that another bridge too far as well?
I guess we will see.

 

You really are slow today. You do not get to decide the subject matter of our discussion. We do. That means both the participants are a part of the process. Trying to contain a discussion on articles of impeachment so that you can exclude the acquittal of all the charges in those articles of impeachment is exactly the kind of behavior that losers engage in. Trying to contain an examination of the phrase' crime of the country' to exclude what some really are, means you know that your claim simply looks silly once examples of the real deal show up. That is what losers do when they know that screwed up. You really can't handle it when I add context that shows you how wrong you are, can you. It makes your posts become whiny, and childish.

This game can go on for as long as we want, Condor.

 

Trump has always done the same thing, only worse, weird that the right can never condemn his actions though

the right can act like the family values party, but after Trump.... we all know the truth

 

This is all I posted

These are the claims I made. Now you want to explain how your regurgitations about confinement, the Senate vote, acquittals, crimes of the century, treason, espionage, and sedition have anything to do with disputing those claims.

Help yourself. I can't wait to hear this.

 

#rentfree
If you’re asking me if Trump is really going to be president in a couple weeks, I’d say you need to get some new material, since that’s a pretty corny way to deflect from the topic at hand. Now explain how Trump has anything you do with Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky?
I obviously have to remind you that “but but but trump” isn’t a coherent response.

 

You do not get to pick the form of my rebuttal. I do. You do not get to define the parameters of our discussion and then scream 'deflection' when the parameters don't match.

 

Bill Clinton too. The matter was nobody's affair but their own

Ken Starr should have been disbarred, charged, indicted and incarcerated for feloniously revealing confidential Grand Jury testimony

 

When you provide a rebuttal, let me know. I haven't seen one yet. So far its just been information vomit that has nothing to do with my post.

I don't even know what that means. lol You're just all over the page.
You were having a discussion? With who? I don't think you even know what you posted.

So try again. (If you can) This is what I posted.
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Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, on grounds of perjury to a grand jury (first article, 228–206) and obstruction of justice (third article, 221–212).
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Impeachments and civil matters have nothing to do with lying to federal investigators. Its still a felony. Clinton was impeached because of that felony.
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When Clinton left office he agreed to give up his law license for suspension instead of being charged after he left office.

Now, if you can dispute what I posted, help yourself.
I don't care if Bill Clinton wasn't hung for treason because it has no value in disputing anything I posted
I don't care if Bill Clinton didn't commit treason, because it has no value in disputing anything I posted
I don't care if Bill Clinton was or wasn't going to be confined because it has no value in disputing anything I posted
I don't care if Bill Clinton wasn't involved in the crime of the century because it has no value in disputing anything I posted
Are you able to follow that? Are you getting the concept of disputing something?

You do get that right? You can't dispute the information if you don't provide information that disproves what I posted?
(Did I just say that out loud)

So for the 9th time, if you can dispute what I posted, do it. I highlighted it for you so you wouldn't get lost in all the words
If I provided sentences that you say were completely untrue, you know you can quote them, right? So quote them. lol
If you want to yammer on and on about Bill Clintons mom, or dog, Tax return, girl friends, or his saxophone, go ahead. Nobody's stopping you.

Things like that are called maturity markers and they usually explain the content provision.
But again, if your not tall enough, don't get on the coaster.

 

Doesn't matter - that is not why he was impeached.

 

Slick Willy taking a nap and finding Monica's Ruby lips wrapped around his John Thomas
I was commenting on that ridiculous phrase. Nobody would ever buy that