WE Are AMONG A RARE BREED, At PF, Says New Poll

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  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    A new Ipsos / Reuters national opinion survey found that ONLY 3% OF AMERICANS, in response to the question, "Who won our Presidential election?" answered that it was Donald Trump. In that poll, 13% said that the winner had not yet been determined, and 79% answered that Joe Biden was the winner. The remaining 5% responded that they did not know. The survey was taken from Saturday afternoon to Tuesday (11-10).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27Q3ED

    There are less optimistic ways to interpret those numbers, though. I believe that there truly were respondents, especially over the weekend, who genuinely hadn't heard the most recent state calls, & so really did not know who had won, or believed that the 270 elector mark had not been breached, so that the next President had yet to be decided. Of that 21% total, however, " The results were somewhat split along party lines: about six in 10 Republicans and almost every Democrat said Biden won." With close to 40% potentially putting off its acknowledgement, Republicans having trouble accepting the results may not be an endangered species.

    But I would guess-- in contrast to the opinion of an MSNBC host, Ali Velshi (who I like)-- that, given a bit more time, most of that 40% will land in the camp believing Biden actually won, at least. And while they might not admit it to a poller, or say so in public, I also still think most will abandon, in their own minds, the idea of some massive voter fraud scheme having changed the results over a broad swathe of states, from Nevada to Wisconsin to Georgia, and more.

    So if you do find yourself in a thread, surrounded by people telling you how clearly it is that President Trump won the election,
    one should step very carefully: you wouldn't want to accidentally break any of their eggs.


    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 80% of Americans, including more than half of Republicans, recognize President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the Nov. 3 election after most media organizations called the race for the Democrat based on his leads in critical battleground states, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

    Biden - who needed 270 Electoral College votes to win - had 279 of those votes to 214 for Trump with results in three states not yet complete, according to Edison Research. In the popular vote, Biden got 76.3 million, or 50.7% of the total, to 71.6 million, or 47.6%, for Trump.

    The Reuters/Ipsos national opinion survey, which ran from Saturday afternoon to Tuesday, found that 79% of U.S. adults believe Biden won the White House. Another 13% said the election has not yet been decided, 3% said Trump won and 5% said they do not know.

    Follow the link, above, for the rest of the article.
     
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    The real silent majority spoke.
    The fake silent majority (aka the screaming frothing at the mouth minority) are calling for a “redo” or outright canceling of the election or other legally dubious methods of completely destroying our democracy

    Trump should cancel election and declare martial law
     
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    I'm only responding to give you the opportunity, while editing is still an option, to reexamine your post. Did you mean to put Trump's name in both places of your emboldened ending? It doesn't seem to make sense, at least to me. Not that the insertion of Biden's name into one of those 2 places would fix that, but I'm just giving you my impression that, whatever you're saying, part of that meaning is going to be lost on many, maybe most, of those who read it (if communicating your thoughts coherently is a concern of yours, that is ).
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are links to other threads but thanks for trying to let me know!
    PF doesn't do the best with identifying hyperlinks :/

    I took one out because it wasn’t an option but rather a youtube video.
     
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    Trump Supporters are exponentially over-represented online (compared to their actual occurrence in the general population).

    A phenomenon that affects all social media sites.
     
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    Compare the proportions in the last two rows. Granted, Trumperinos =/= Republicans. If we consider the popular vote estimates with this survey, Trump support is greater in real life than Republican expression is on social media. Unlikely that social media is nationally representative of anything, tbh as it reflects the attitudes of those who are mostly younger, affluent left-leaners.
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    Paranoid whiners gotta whine.
     

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