We May Have Reached The 'Apocalyptic Scenario' With Antibiotics

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  1. signalmankenneth

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    There has never been antibiotics for the Flu since the Flu is a virus.
     
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    I was given penicillin shots for the flu in the army and it worked for me, the flu almost killed me too!
     
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    Antibiotics are for bacterial infections, not viral. If you had the flu and were given antibiotics it was not for the flu (unless you cried about needing antibiotics so much that they gave them to you to shut you up) but for a secondary infection that took advantage of your immune system being weakened by its fight against the flu.
     
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    That happens and works out that way when the virus creates the conditions that lead to infection. Once infection sets in, antibiotics work well. But then you're not fighting the virus, you're fighting infection. I went through the same scenario where flu resulted in upper respiratory infection, but the treatment was for the infection, not the virus. Cause/effect.
     
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    Antibiotics used to fatten up livestock...
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    Livestock consume antibiotics more than all human consumption
    Sep 17, 2015: Poultry and meat producing animals are being pumped with antibiotics to fatten them up, seriously threatening humans.
     
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    Fast testing method for antibiotic resistance susceptibility...
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    Researchers develop fast testing method for antibiotic susceptibility
    Jan. 23, 2016 - The new test can help determine a bacterium's susceptibility to antibiotics within hours in order to quickly and more effectively treat patients.
    See also:

    Blood test may indicate antibiotic efficacy
    Jan. 21, 2016 - Gene expression in patients differs depending on their infection, which scientists say can be used to determine whether antibiotics are the right course of treatment.
     
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    Well, you didn't have the flu then..... If someone gave me a shot of Penicillin it would kill me - I'm so allergic to it and had to find out the hard way....
     
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    'Incentives' is new term for more money
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    New incentives needed to develop antibiotics to fight superbugs
    May 27, 2016 - Drugmakers are renewing efforts to develop medicines to fight emerging antibiotic-resistant bacteria, but creating new classes of drugs on the scale needed is unlikely to happen without new financial incentives to make the effort worth the investment, companies and industry experts said.
     
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    New antibiotic for superbugs about to come on market...
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    Tetraphase antibiotic may reach up to $700 million in annual sales: CEO
    February 8, 2017 - Tetraphase Pharmaceuticals Inc Chief Executive Guy Macdonald said annual sales of the company's lead experimental antibiotic for serious bacterial infections could climb as high as $700 million if approved.
     
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    Dis lil' piggy went to market...
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    WHO To Farmers: Stop Giving Your Animals So Many Antibiotics
    November 7, 2017 - The World Health Organization, worried about an increasing epidemic of drug-resistant infections, has thrown its considerable weight behind the campaign to cut the use of antibiotics in pigs, chickens and cattle that are raised for their meat. The WHO is calling on governments to follow the example of Denmark and the Netherlands, which have banned the use of these drugs to make animals grow faster, or simply to protect healthy animals from getting sick.
     
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    AB's .. for the flu?

    what the
     
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    actually, people taking ABs for viruses is a major part of the problem.
     
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    Experts urge curbing use of antibiotics...
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    Experts urge curbing use of antibiotics
    Wed, Mar 28, 2018 - A dramatic rise in global antibiotic consumption has led public health experts to call for fresh strategies to rein in excessive use of the drugs, and for major investments to provide clean water, sanitation and vaccines in countries where infectious diseases are rife.
     
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    Self medicating Cranks are the real problem.
    Antibiotics have no effect on a Viral infection.
     
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    You likely had bronchial pneumonia and not the Flu.
     
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    Antibiotics do not fatten anything, hormones are given for speeding up growth.

    At one point, in Puerto Rico, hormones given to speed growth in cattle and chickens were affecting children causing early breast development in prepubescent females.
    And other characteristics in prepubescent males.
     
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    People With Sinus Infections Stay on Antibiotics Too Long...
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    People With Sinus Infections Stay on Antibiotics Too Long, Study Indicates
    March 30, 2018 - Most people prescribed antibiotics for sinus infections are on treatment courses of 10 days or longer even though infectious-disease doctors recommend five to seven days for uncomplicated cases, a U.S. study suggests.
     
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    All civilized countries should ban the use of antibiotics in live stock. The drugs should only be used to treat a sick animal, in minimal required quantities and the animal should not be slaughtered for a few months after treatment.
     
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    Are you a Veterinarian ?
     

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