We The People gave the guy a chance

Clearly, you need to read up on separation of powers. I know the fools who voted for trump would simply turn the country over to a reality TV clown, but that's simply not how it works.

 

Always with the insults.

The democrats have very little power in government at the moment. Not on the national level or the state and county level. Tell me, why is that?

 

I can't disagree, and yet I also fundamentally disagree. If that sounds weird, forgive me. It's hard to put in words. But I believe that theoretically, any government can exist.(Even yes, those god forsaken theocracies. If anyone wants to live in them.) A perfect example is in our colonial status with England for example. When it was all good between England and the Colonies, who wouldn't want England's de-facto protection?

But when England started overruling the colonies(the tea tax, among other problems.) the colonies didn't want anything to do with England anymore. It's the same for any other situation around the world. When government governs with the consent of its people, you'll find a lack of appetite for any political action.

Action is motivated by displeasure, very rarely by a necessity. Though most progressive thinkers will act on a necessity. The problem there inlies the concept of necessity and whether it's actually, REALLY necessary. Something that the Far Left doesn't understand(or doesn't want to understand.) Possibly because to them, they think it's REALLY necessary.

And that might not be wrong....for them. But what's necessary for them, isn't necessary for others. And thus, the game in politics is to balance interests so that everyone is happy. Which is why my politics, particularly I try to think of things that are really necessary. I don't think a national health care system is necessary, because most people are already covered/were covered.

The Democrats could've saved themselves this whole thing by primarily targeting those 15% of Americans without insurance and leaving the rest of the system alone. Had they done that, it would have addressed the needs and concerns of the uninsured, left the majority alone and likely there's no Trump, there was no Tea Party, etc.

Of course, a lot more went wrong, but it all started off with what we're stuck with: The worst financial bill in the history of the US Congress. But to the state of government today, I feel the argument over whether it was a 'Christian Nation' or a multicultural society are both misconceptions. We presently live in an oligarchy, where money rules and talks.

Why is it that the country was forced to choose between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump? Money. Who puts these people in power? Lobbyists with big money. Until we topple over the money overlords, we're a kleptocracy and a mere 'democracy' in name only.

 

Again, read up on separation of powers. It seems like you need to be told this numerous times, disagreement is not an insult.

 

No answer to my question?

Tell me how separation of powers lead to the democrats being out of power? This "fool" wants to know.

 

Constitutional scholar....

 

You supported Hillary and call us fools? I have a great idea. Continue attacking us with name calling and hate and make us feel like we stupid for not supporting the criminal Hillary and see how many of those 60+ million Republican votes you steal in 2020. Calling us deplorables is a big mistake. When you want to win an election all votes matter and the Democratic party and left people fail to realize that. It cost you guys the election. Learn from your mistakes.

 

Very true but without control it makes it harder. Republicans couldn't stop the Affordable Care Act because they were out of power at the time. However that didn't last long and that's why they were able to obstruct president Obama from 2014 onwards.
If the democrats have truly learned from the republicans then the first thing they'll do is take control of
the House or Senate in 2018. Until then their planned obstructionism will go nowhere.

P.S. Part of the reason republicans could obstruct president Obama is because he is a terrible negotiator as shown by his failure to get anything done without using executive orders. Where as president elect Trump has shown himself to be a pretty good negotiator who's willing to work with all sides.

 

As he's mentioned to me a few times, he's not name calling, he's just "disagreeing."

 

Well he has a right to disagree and calling us fools is not as bad as Hillary calling us deplorable but still if you want to win an election your goal should be to make America great and to get 90% of American's from both parties to support you and Republicans won't support anybody the Democrats put fourth if they continue to try and play the "we are stupid for voting for Trump" game.

I don't vote based on party. I vote based on the person running and Trump was our best chance at a better country. Hillary offered us nothing. If the left does not like the outcome then they need to put forth a better candidate and not one who was a criminal with ties to a secret group known as the "Skulls and Bones". Not to mention the many problems she had.

Trump was our only option. The left needs to realize we saved this country for 4 years.

 

I wanted to vote for a woman candidate. I would love to see a woman as president. She has to be someone I can look up to, someone I can respect, someone I can admire. Hillary Clinton is none of those things. No way could I support someone like her being the first woman president. She would be a horrible role model, just horrible. I voted 30% for Trump and 70% against Clinton. It's the democrats own fault for putting a terrible candidate like her up as their nominee.

 

Amazing that he beat the drunken kleptocrat warmonger though.

 

Pretty much the whole of humanity has been able to see what giving Trump a chance means and that's been the case for decades. He deals in poison.

Snowden burst the fantasy bubble that US leaders and the hidden machinations which percolate behind the scenes are somehow in the US population's best interests. He's certainly a menace to some.

 

That is a very good response and a lot of women felt that way. Nobody in their right mind would support Hillary. I honestly feel like we saved America for the next 4 years. The Republican party is still the Republican party and after Trump leaves office I hope the party will learn from this and strive to be better for America. The Democrats don't seem to care so it's up to the Republicans and while I do connect with my party on a lot of issues I just don't trust them after they helped put forth NAFTA and tried to put forth Mitt Romney. Our country is in a serious mess and I just don't feel the parties truly understand this. They are both too corrupt and full of liars. Take a look at the 2004 election that had Bush vs Kerry. Bush ran for the Republicans while Kerry ran for the Democrats. Both were members of the secret group the "Skulls" and this ensured the elite group had a 100% of electing someone from their group to run America. This is not the first time a member was president. It's happened several times starting with William Howard Taft in 1909. So I hope for the best but I don't trust any party in America anymore.

I hope Trump will make America great and I am going to give him a chance. I would have done the same for Hillary and while I would have been upset with her winning I don't like to start violence like the left is doing. It's to bad the angry people on the left won't give him a chance when most of America has pretty much accepted the results and are moving on.

 

Okay, just how, and please be specific, do you think Obama should have addressed the 15% without insurance and left the rest of the people alone? A major feature of Obamacare, and something that it appears may be saving it since neither Trump nor the Congress wants to cancel insurance on that many people, is that it covered 20 millions who had not been covered before

 

This is actually stupidly simple and easy I don't know why the Congress of 2009 didn't do it: You know the subsidy portion of the bill? Yeah, that should've been the ENTIRE bill. We can call it the "Health Supplement Act." Just add the people who weren't insured, to the markets and then you get what you wanted: People being insured. Now, in of itself that doesn't do anything about the price controls, but then neither did the ACA fundamentally.

So the whole 'affordable' thing was a sham, you/they just want people insure. Then insure them, just don't screw with everyone else lol. If they like their "bare-bones" plan, they should keep their bare-bones plans lol.. Who was the DNC to say otherwise? Did they have intimate info on what people needed? No, it was pure egotism.

They threw out the baby with the bathwater, and the American People(regardless of ideology) now have to lie in the crap bed made lol.

 

And how would you have paid for that? I think one feature of Obamacare is that it's at least supposedly 'revenue neutral' and that was a precondition to its getting even sufficient DEMOCRAT support

 

Indeed. He's the deplorables' great orange hope.
But he promotes the worst in people, and such cheap demagoguery is very effective among those stupid and cowardly enough to fall for it.
Luckily, the voters who fell for it are still in the minority and the country will resist the lunatic fringe mob of carpetbaggers and extremists that trump has cobbled together when they try to over reach.
The most serious problem that the country has with trump going in is that the mafia has had this guy by the shorthairs for decades.
He's bought and paid for by organized crime. They have so much dirt against him that he will do whatever they tell him to avoid ending up in prison or worse.

 

And yet no matter who is in power they all consistently support imperialism. Go figure.

 

Wow, the butthurt is strong. Guess you preferred the disaster called crooked Hillary eh? Wait a minute, we gave her a chance and she lost. Get over it.

 

Trump has shown himself to be pretty good at taking credit for things that were already happening and his obedient minions have loyally supported him in this. Otherwise I don't see him as negotiating anything so far. Egotistical narcissists who take everything personally and rage at everyone all the time over real or imagined slights don't seem like they'd make good negotiators to me but we will see what happens

I think it's going to be pretty easy to take back control of the Congress in 2018 as Trump and the pubs will have royally (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up everything by then. If they have and we do, I'll be gratified, if not, I'll participate in the increased prosperity along with everyone and still be happy. Everything's win-win for me right now, but my life has always been that way, just lucky I guess.

 

So if it's not the Russians, it's the criminally organized mafia! Any proof of the mafia/Trump connections?

 

Empires support Empires, the people in them never do, this is one reason they always fail.

 

We gave her a chance, she won but you pulled the same nasty trick you did in 2000. We'll get over this but don't expect to be able to do it again

 

Wow, the delusion is strong! Hillary lost and you still can't wrap your head around that fact. Sad for you and dems still trying to steal the election in the courts, like 2000. Bunch of sore losers. Maybe the government should start handing out participation awards.