Were the laws of thermodynamics broken on 9/11 in addition to the laws of physics?

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    I went down the 9/11 Truther rabbit hole over a decade ago when it was a thing. It goes nowhere, and if it was going somewhere, it would've got there years ago. It's a huge waste of time, and it's a dead horse that very few are still bothering to beat.

    I guess I'm posting to tell you to stop wasting your time, but, if you've got the time to waste, then keep your tinfoil hat screwed on tight, and keep at it.

    Good luck with that, Captain Obstinate.
     
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  2. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    So you are posting here to troll, that’s what I thought. You do understand that you are violating the rules of this forum, right? You are not telling me anything I’m interested in nor are you addressing the topic of this thread. Please stay out if you refuse to address the topic at hand.

    Having said that no one who has any integrity/humanity is ever going to quit exposing the 9/11 lies/crimes perpetrated by the US government or bend over to them. Not now, not ever. This isn’t about cultism it’s about humanity and integrity. You are seriously confused and thoroughly indoctrinated.
     
  3. Shinebox

    Shinebox Well-Known Member

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    Bob loves rules ...
     
  4. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Not really unless they make sense. In this case they do. If a poster only posts to ridicule or criticize a poster and refuses to address the topic then the poster should be booted from the thread.
     
  5. ArchStanton

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    I've got to give it to you Bob, you're persistent. Fact is that the twin towers had a unique design feature whereby all the floors of the building were supported by the perimeter beams, which were visible on the outside of the building. It was an 'open air' type building, meaning the floors didn't have load bearing columns in the interior, thereby freeing up floor space.

    I studied those buildings when I was in an a structural engineering class whilst in college. I saw the attack in real time, and I knew with near 100% certainty that those buildings were going to come down if they didn't get the fires out in short order.

    No beams failed. It was the anchor bolts that sheered away from the perimeter load bearing columns that failed. Once that happened on one floor, it pancaked floor on top of floor, like a domino effect, and even though the other floors weren't structurally damaged, i.e. the anchor bolts, their peak sheer strength and built-in safety load factor was exceeded. Thus the failure. The design is why the building basically came straight down as opposed to falling over. The perimeter load bearing columns acted like a container for the pancaking floors, thus preventing a large footprint of destruction.

    But you can keep on going, it's entertaining.
     
  6. Bob0627

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    You must be a psychic but you’re certainly not any kind of expert. There was a fire in the North Tower in 1975 that affected about 10 floors and was described as a “blow torch” by one firefighter. The building sustained heavy fire damage but was never in any danger of collapsing nor was anyone worried about the possibility of a collapse. Furthermore you are being contradicted by REAL experts who are supported by over 3,000 architects and engineers (at minimum) of your “100% certainty”. But thanks for your baloney anyway. If I have to choose between REAL experts and an anonymous OCT defender posting his assessment of what happened guess who I am going to choose to take seriously? Beyond that you have no explanation as to the manner in which these 3 buildings were destroyed unimpeded at free fall and near free fall. So nothing you posted is based on reality just wishful thinking and pretentious claims.
     
  7. Gamolon

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    Can you point me to one of these 3,000 architects or engineers who wrote a peer reviwed paper showing that fire and plane damage could NOT have brought down the buildings? No? So they are guessing just like you accuse ArchStanton of doing?

    More hypocrisy from you Bobby...
     
  8. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I never said any such thing, go back and read for comprehension or don’t. No one would write such an article. All (or most) articles on the subject refer to NIST’s phony theories or their gross failure to investigate. Hulsey also stayed away from making any claims about the CD of WTC7 despite the obvious.
     
  9. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Holy cow, you're psychic! You knew they were coming down when you saw the attack, with 100% certainty! Wow, you da man!!
     
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  10. ArchStanton

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    No, just not a dumbass. As I mentioned in a post that was deleted, I could dig out my steel construction design manuals and give a lesson to the uneducated.

    But you all can continue as you please. Ya'll got it all figured out. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  11. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Based on what you think you know no one needs any of your “lessons”.

    Unfortunately not because the official story is a criminal scam. That’s why there are at least 2 or 3 ongoing legal actions demanding the truth about what happened on 9/11 backed by overwhelming evidence that contradicts the official story. Perhaps we’ll never have it figured out but a REAL investigation would be a good start toward that objective.
     
  12. Bob0627

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    And conversely the worst source of information on 9/11 is the US government and even worse is the US government’s minions and stooges, which includes the MSM and die hard OCT defenders found in nearly every forum.
     
  13. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    All I have figured out Arch, is that we were all deceived on that day. I took me 5 years to figure it out, but what is certain is that the official narrative is intellectually bankrupt. It is a bright and shining lie.
     

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