What are LW Posters' Thoughts on Treatment of China and the CCCP Going Forward?

Interested in more LW forum posters' thoughts on what, if anything should be done to China and the CCCP? How many trillions of lawsuits, boycotts, trade war, other stuff, if anything should the world try to enforce? Should penalties be severe, moderate, none at all?

What would you do -specifically- to punish, ignore, promote the CCCP given the chance?

Would like to hear from some of our more prolific LW posters on this, especially those advocating lockdowns, social distancing, border closures, but those are NOT the topic, nor is Trump the topic.

The topic, again, is what specific measures, if any at all, should be taken against China or the CCCP in the coming months or years.

 

We should announce the end of imports from China at a future date. The CCCP no longer exists. I assume you mean the Russsian Federation. I don't think it is threat to the U.S. so I would do nothing there.

 

Now is not the time to instate another trade war with China. The world is going to be in a recession for at least the next 6 months - it's suicide to start a trade war right now (Friday's stock market drop should be a red flag on that).

I'm not saying forget or forgive China's past actions, just saying any retaliatory action should wait until we can see just how catastrophic this downturn is going to be.

 

I get called a leftist enough to probably have a say.

Honestly? Nothing. Lots of people made mistakes during this, and saying that it's "China's fault" ignores that. It's a right wing narrative that has no basis in reality. Let bygones be bygones. Focus on why it failed in your home country.

 

My bad, meant CCP, wasn't paying attention.

 

Bumping this up. Hoping to get the POVs of some of our more "prolific" LW, Anti Trump posters on sanctions, etc. versus China, CCP, or should nothing be done, or what do you think?

 

I think all of our energy should be spent solving the virus problem and worry about dealing with China when that is done. It is obvious that China did not handle things well and was not totally truthful, but it is also obvious we are not handling it well either.

 

I looked up the CCCP, and other than the designation of the old Soviet Union, a German pop group, an Italian band, and a codec used to play multimedia came up.

So if you're talking about Russia, I think we should retaliate further for attacking our electoral system.

As for China, they will have to be dealt with too. It's difficult to say right now because we only have the information that Trump has provided. And that is absolutely not dependable. But if some trustworthy source determines that they were at fault by not releasing the information, the next President should coordinate with the other economic powers to sanction the crap out of them.

If the next President is Trump.... then they'll just put some money in his bank account, praise how great his hair looks, and all will be forgotten.

 

I corrected the CCCP typo early in the thread. The rest of the reply is informative of ways not to answer the thread in an adult, reasonable fashion, specifically the "orangemanbad" part.

So does any LW have any adult opinions to share about sanctions or not versus China/CCP? Specifically what kind of sanctions, lawsuits, amounts of remuneration?

 

Not a leftie, but I have voted for several,

I stepped up my buy anerican game in 2017 but only committed half way, but now I'm hardcore no chinese crap if avoidable. So for me personally its 99% no china on anything i have control over.

I hope I'm not alone.

Sanctions? No, not without more evidence

Lawsuits? If we couldn't sue over chinese drywall, I cant imagine we'd pull this off.

Tarrifs? in general yes with regards to trade fairness, on medical stuff? It's a hell Yes, we need to resolve the supply chain issues by financial force if needed.

 

1. Civil War
2. WWII
3. WWI
4. COVID-19
5. Vietnam

You’d think our attention would be focused on not allowing number 4 to become number 3 on our list of catastrophic casualty events.

Sure, we can deal with China in the after action report.

 

At THIS TIME, none.

Whether we like it or not, we still need to keep diplomatic ties and trade with China. We still do not have any complete picture of where this virus came from, what it is capable of doing, or how long it will be before we have a cure or vaccine.

There is no denying that Trump wants to blame China, the do-nothing president who never takes responsibility for anything, so it would not surprise me in the least he would be more than willing to start a war with China (or anybody really) just to once again distract us from the miserable job he's done thus far.

 

China Controls our Fake News Media, our Fake News Media works hand in glove with the Left and the DNC.

China was in violation of International Health Regulations. What do we do now?

DECOUPLE

 

THE OTHER 25% ARE HARD TO FIGURE, OR ON THE PAYROLL: Nearly 3 in 4 Americans Blame the Chinese Government for America’s High Death Rate.

 

There are MAYBE 2 left wing posters here.

You might as well ask what communist conservatives think.

 

The Outlaw Lying Regime in Beijing is stuffing a LOT of money in Left Wing pockets and the price exacted is that they chirp the CCP line, on cue, every time.

COLLUSION IS EVERYWHERE IN ACADEMIA: A Case Western Reserve University professor has been arrested over his alleged ties to China. The professor is just the latest in a growing list of U.S. college faculty to face these types of charges.

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Cleveland Special Agent-in-Charge Eric Smith said this wasn’t “a simple case of omission, " adding that “Wang deliberately failed to disclose his Chinese grants and foreign positions and even engaged in a pervasive pattern of fraud to avoid criminal culpability.”

Wang served on the Staff of the Lerner Research Institute, a research arm of the world-renowned Cleveland Clinic.

The Justice Department announced that Qing Wang was arrested at his Shaker Heights, Ohio home as part of a joint operation conducted by the FBI and the Department of Health and Human Service Office of the Inspector-General. Wang was charged with wire fraud related to more than $3.6 million in grant funding that Wang and his research team at the Cleveland Clinic had received from the National Institutes of Health.

Wang failed to disclose affiliations with Chinese universities. He also failed to disclose that he had received "grants" from the National Natural Science Foundation of China for a nearly identical research project. He held the title Dean of the College of Life Sciences and Technology at Huazhong University of Science and Technology.

Don't Trust China. China is Ashole

 

You should be after God since he created the whole mess,,,but since we need a sacrifice...

 

You are asking if we should take action to punish China? For what? Why are we trying to punish China?

Assuming you mean Russia when you say CCCP. Strong sanctions should be in placed and tightly enforced until Russia withdraws from Ukraine and stops threatening military action against their neighbors. It is understood we compete with Russia in many regions but threatening armed conflict is not how these issues should be approached by either side.

 

What? who? Me? Who? What? Why?

Yeah...

BTW my C key sticks on CCP sometimes, but you knew that full well already.