What are the motives of abortion doctors? Should these affect the abortion debate?

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  1. alicecullen

    alicecullen Newly Registered

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    uhh what?
     
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    As I said, bro. They don't know what life is. :(
    They're eventually pure materialists. Murdering life means nothing to them.
     
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    I don't understand the question or I guess I don't understand why this is a question in which abortion doctors are being singled out. What is the motivation for any doctor or anybody else that gets paid to do the job they were hired to do?

    With that said, I absolutely believe that the kind of people that do that kind of work have much bigger goals than money. Every doctor I've ever met that worked in a women's clinic or low income medical program have exemplary compassion, understanding and knowledge about the challenges many women face with an unwanted pregnancy. I have seen that kind of compassion, understanding and knowledge with doctors in private practices but it's not very common in my personal or professional experience.

    These people get into those roles because of who they are and that takes courage because they are the first ones targeted when anyone wants to rant and rave about <whatever they are ranting and raving about>. They get threatened, there are bomb threats, protestors, hate mail, harassment, etc.. Those positions are not for the faint of heart. They can only be successfully filled with people with courage to stand with women in their quest to make the choices they deem best for themselves and their futures.

    Ounce for ounce, I'd say "giving a damn about others" is the biggest motivation for most of them.
     
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    okay but i honestly think pure materialism is better than being so misogynistic that you value unconscious immature fetuses over the real, sentient women who will suffer as a result of their growth
     
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    A specious excuse to kill someone else.
     
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    if you've ever gone on a road trip you've killed more innocent life than even the most prolific abortion doctor has in their work. most of it, i'd wager, more sentient than the average fetus.
     
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    But plenty for HUMANS, for instance , women.

    Now , can you explain why you would think doctors have no empathy for animals....is there a logical explanation?
     
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    No one with any self-respect would make such a ridiculous comment.
     
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    quality rebuttal, you've changed My mind!
     
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    :) LOL...
     
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    Women aren't a distinct race or ethnicity. Humans are humans, female or male doesn't matter. Abortion doctors murder both in advance. :(

    Humans consider themselves as the highest life form on earth. Animals and fetuses are one level below that. So if someone doesn't feel empathy for animals, he surely doesn't feel empathy for unborn humans.
     
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    maybe you do lol
    according to whom
    ???? total non-sequitur
     
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    So what...
     
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    Nope, it's your fault. You didn't understand me. Let's start at the beginning. Why do you think that most humans don't believe that they're the highest lifeform on earth?
     
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    You asked for it and I tried to explain ...
     
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    most humans probably do but only because most of them understand nothing about biology
     
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    Then why do humans have the most capable brains of all species on this planet? And why only humans rule the earth for centuries and not for example squirrels?

    I never thought I would ever read someone questioning human dominance on this planet.
    :(
     
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    This doesn't explain anything:
    pitbull said:
    Women aren't a distinct race or ethnicity. Humans are humans, female or male doesn't matter. Abortion doctors murder both in advance. :(


    Humans consider themselves as the highest life form on earth. Animals and fetuses are one level below that. So if someone doesn't feel empathy for animals, he surely doesn't feel empathy for unborn humans.""""""""""""""""


    I mean, it's incorrect, abortion isn't murder..... and what anyone feels for animals has nothing to do with their feelings for humans or doctor's motives ( the TOPIC)

    Is your point to try to insult those who believe women have a right to their own bodies? The right to abortion?

    Then again, so what...
     
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    what does "most capable brain" mean to you and why do you consider that a good measure of an organism's value?
    if the length of global dominance is the measure of a clade's value why aren't you extolling the virtues of cyanobacteria?
    sorry i'm a biology major
     
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    Women have indeed a right to their bodies but they have to share it while they're pregnant. That's nature. When the child is born, ownership of the female body reverts fully back to her.

    My point is to save the unborn. I'm a kind of "Voice of the voiceless". :)
    I wish that every woman could establish a mental connection to her unborn child.
    Some do, but some, unfortunately, are unable. :(
     
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    is there a reason you believe this should be true of a 1st-trimester fetus but not a tapeworm?
     
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    This "nature" that you speak of does NOT make laws, is not a law, has no bearing on rights.
    And humans have been fighting and winning over "nature" since the first people....


    A woman ( person) always has ownership of their body.

    Would you like someone to take ownership of your body and you have to give them a , say, kidney against your wishes?


    So don't have an abortion.


    Again, so what? Their body, their choice.
     
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    It's not about value. It's about capability.

    Cyanobacteria might exist longer than humans, but they never were a dominant species on earth.

    Not sorry. :D
    I do believe that you have some degree in biology, but you're a leftist troll too, brother. :)
     
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    Prehistoric people sometimes killed their children too.

    It's a little smarter now. But it's nothing to be proud of. :(
     
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    what measures "capability"
    imagine being in 2022 and not knowing about the great oxidation event and snowball earth I lol!! you're just embarrassing yourself
    of course i'm a leftist, i wasn't hiding that
     

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