What are the sons of Wichita up to.

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  1. Molly David

    Molly David New Member

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    We have heard about Charles Kochs plan to fund canidates up to $1b in the next election in an attempt to buy the Presidency of this great country.

    The Sons of Wichita do seem to be on a mission to use their money to undermine our democracy for their own financial and political ammbitions. When will Americans realize that we cannot allow this much money in politics. Its not good for democracy. In fact it isn't democracy. It verges on dictatorship and oligarchy.

    The people are being used and Orwellian dreams in the novel 1984 will come true if Charles and David Koch are allowed to get their way through their funded organization. "Americans for Prosperity". This is not your Prosperity but Koch Bros ideas for expanding their own wealth, IMO.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    But the Koch Bros. did not buy Romney the 2012 Presidential Election.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you feel the same way about George Soros?
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    We do not have a Democracy, we have a representative Republic. One originally designed to prevent none Land owning people(Lower classes) from having much of a say. I for one would prefer a government run by people with something to lose, not the hodge podge of undesirables you are advocating for.
     
  5. Molly David

    Molly David New Member

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    I don't know the extent to which George Soros has inflitrated US society with his money. The Kochs have been at it for10's of years including promoting and fundingthe Tea Party. I don't belive Soros has done anywhere near as much damage to the will of the people and the democratic process as the Kochs have done by secret and behind the scenes manipulation.
    I don't believe the founding fathers ever thought of the Likes of the Kochs wielding so much individual power.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Soros is a well known supporter of progressiveĀ–liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes.
    On 11 November 2003, in an interview with The Washington Post, Soros said that removing President George W. Bush from office was the "central focus of my life" and "a matter of life and death". He said he would sacrifice his entire fortune to defeat Bush "if someone guaranteed it". Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, $2.5 million to MoveOn.org, and $20 million[74] to America Coming Together. These groups worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election. On September 28, 2004, he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multistate tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. The online transcript to this speech received many hits after Dick Cheney accidentally referred to FactCheck.org as "factcheck.com" in the vice presidential debate, causing the owner of that domain to redirect all traffic to Soros's site.

    He lost on that one.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if the Koch bros donated to Nancy Pelosi she would vote how they wanted her two?

    How come the Koch bros don't just pick people out of their corporations and run them in every election so they could own congress?

    What if the Koch bros donate to a candidate and somebody matches them but wants the opposite of what the bros do? Not all large donors have the same agenda.

    You realize that both sides have large donors so if money bought politicians which side wins?

    The Koch bros do not buy anything, they support candidates who are most likely to vote on issues in their favor, just like every other large donor does. It's nothing but a gamble.
     
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    come see for yourself who buys candidates more than anyone else... notice democrat donors top the list of campaign contributors...

    https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

    #1 donor gave 75 million to democrats...
    #2 donor gave 28 million to democrats...
    #3 donor gave 11 million to republicans...

    want to tell me who's buying who??? this kinda goes against the democrat mantra saying its republicans buying elections and votes right?

    lets take a look at organizations and skip individual donors... maybe thats where republicans get their money, from companies right... lets check that out...

    https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/toporgs.php

    #1 donor gave 75 million to democrats...
    #2 donor gave 68 million to democrats...
    #3 donor gave 29 million to democrats...
    #4 donor gave 28 million to democrats...
    #5 donor gave 24 million to democrats...
    #6 donor gave 23 million to democrats...
    #7 donor gave 19 million to democrats...
    #8 donor gave 17 million to democrats...
    #9 donor gave 14 million to democrats...
    #10 donor gave 14 million to republicans...

    wait we had to go down to the 10th highest donations before we finally got to republicans getting money...

    hmmm something isn't adding up... democrats claim republicans are buying elections and votes... yet democrats seem to be getting more money than republicans... in fact Obama spent more money than Romney in the 2012 election... so how could democrats still continue to claim republicans are buying votes when democrats spend more!!!!

    see this is the crap they don't want people to realize and hold them accountable too... they want to keep repeating the stereotype and mantra and hope nobody holds them accountable when they are doing the VERY thing they claim the republicans are doing... so democrats are huge abusers of buying votes and money... ironic hey...

    are you starting to get the picture? democrats out spend, out raise, and out manipulate everyone... and then claim its republicans doing it...
     

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