What are Y'all Gonna Do Next Month When A Gallon Of Milk Cost $11

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  1. Condor060

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    @FreshAir You are the most dishonest poster I have ever seen on PF.
    And the only one so dishonest, you get the ignore button.
    I have no further need of you
     
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    If milk ends up costing $11 per gallon, I'll simply cut out drinking beer and wine. Probably save a ton of money by doing that.
     
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    Its pretty obvious milk isn't the only product that would be included in higher trucking cost
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thank you

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    It's nothing new, ButterBalls... over NINETY years ago, Frankie Roosevelt found out that the way to get Democrats elected and re-elected, forever, was get Americans on one welfare program after another, after another.

    Decades later, Lyndon Johnson greatly enlarged this vote-getting methodology! And, now it's been brought to a zenith during the Obama/Biden regimes' manipulations. The latest example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/adammi...ter-newest-wave-of-approvals/?sh=3a8e83c5f350

    [​IMG]. "Hey, Snowflakes! Remember who your 'daddy' is...!" :xmassanta:
     
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    I think the more precise term is "on the way to the welfare state." Programs that FDR initiated during the Great Depression did one thing and one thing only, to take away fear from the general populace. It was started by his first Presidential acceptance speech iwth the infamous line, "You have nothing to fear but fear itself." One of the top 5 greatest presidential inauragation speeches of all time.

    The New Deal projects, the Civilian Conservation Corps, Works Progress Administration, National Youth Administration, Social Security, and the Farm Security Administration, were no where near a welfare programm, but rather government sponsored programs created in response to a national economic crisis. In the time of Roosevelt, the vast population lost total and complete confidence in the future and a signifcant reduction in the general living standards of the country. This severe depression affected everybody from all groups, income levels, and social strata. However, these projects did do some valuable contributions to the country that cannot be defined as "welfare." For instance, in the Civilian Conservation Corps, a lot of the projects included erosion control, transporation infrastructure, building and bridges infrastructure, forest culture, wildlife conservation projects, and the list goes on. The San Antonio Riverwalk, the original part, was a byproduct of the Civilian Conservation Corps, not to mention most of the artificial lakes around the country I might add. These projects would never be considered by businesses at that time., They saw no profit and a lot of financial risk. To pay for all this, the tax code became more progressive, but that's a totally different discussion altogether. Welfare state didn't come around until LBJ time, but many of FDR projects paved the way. However,

    Furthermore, the country was shifting in its economic thought from a pure laizze-faire, to Keynesian model, which was being used more and more by the so called first world countries. In that shift, consumer attitudes shifted and how government should be incorporated into the economy and society. Today, we modified what FDR did through the new federalism doctrine where both businesses and government work together for the overall projects. Today, the federal government pays the money, aka welfare, and the private business performs the task. In FDR time, the goverenment did both, fund the money and performed the task on a national scale.
     
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    You are attempting to compare COVID now with COVID in 2020 and early 2021? Don't be absurd.


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    I asked you first

    Do you really believe there is only ONE type of crude oil and the price for that ONE type of crude oil is the same everywhere in the world?
     
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    the effects are still with us, the supply issue is directly related
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    never said it was, now, do you really believe if the foreign supply of oil increases, us oils companies won't lower their price?
     
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    I can agree many points that you make... indeed, they are accurate, if not altogether justifiable to many of us who do continue to believe in a 'free-market' capitalist economy.

    But, rather than nit-pick or deflect away from the thrust of what I believe you're saying, I'll point out one very major, LETHAL flaw in the 'FDR-Keynesian model' as actually applied in this country -- the fact that the segment of the population that takes unearned income, subsidies, and/or welfare from the government is allowed to continue VOTING in all the elections held by the country!

    When those who MAKE wealth, prosperity, and pay taxes become outnumbered by those who, for one reason or another, simply take from taxpayers what they have not EARNED, then the system is doomed, ultimately, to failure. Remember the famous words of Benjamin Franklin, which are just as true now as they were back then....

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    I understand where you are coming from, but the reality is that even those that make money, earnings, and wealth, also get to take from taxpayers of what they have not earned. We call it tax breaks, credits, exemptions, loopholes, etc. We also can call it campaign financing, or legal bribery, to try to get bills passed or not passed in Congress or state legislature. If we are going to get rid of all the loopholes and tax breaks as you and I want, then we also need to get rid of all the campaign financing by any business, group, and individual. And that would take a Supreme Court case to get that done.
     
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    I commend you for your honesty, but even the Supreme Court is made up of, yes, Republicans and Democrats.

    So, nothing will change until we finally 'drill a big hole' in the bottom of this 'boat', and that will end any further pretense of a truly free-market economy in this country forever.
     
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    If at this point anyone is still pro-Democrat, they're not worth the energy it takes to type in their general direction.

    When the food shortages start, they'll be explaining that one as a "consumption problem" as well.
     
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    The effects will ALWAYS be with us like the flue. If the current administration cannot deal with that then don't you think they need to be replaced? There is supply out there, if we want more then stop paying people not to work so they go to work and produce more supply. What is Biden doing to increase capital investment and expanding our manufacturing and service sectors and be specific.
     

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