What are you gonna do against an army with an ar-15

Don’t ever wanna hear another liberal make that argument again after the last 3 days of ukranian citizens fighting for their country against the 3rd greatest military in the world.

 

AR 15's don't do anything to a tank. Rather than ask THAT question... ask how hard is Russia fighting. The internet still works in Ukraine. Water is still working. Electricity is still on. In any military planning I've ever seen, even from years ago... utilities would be the first to go. What is really going on here?
When I was in Iraq the ruined "distribution center" ... a small building on a huge power generating complex was destroyed on Day 1. That knocked out power, but was easily repaired when we arrived.

 

Nope. But they an do plenty to those who fuel / reload / maintain / crew / the tank.
And they can suppresses those accompanying the tank long enough to chuck a flaming bottle of gasoline in its deck.

Russia doesn't want to lay waste to the Ukraine or its people - else they are useless.
It also doesn't have the money to spend on reconstructing infrastructure.
Thus.

 

If you think Ukrainian military is just a bunch of civilians armed with AR15s then you are not very well informed about the situation. They have an actual army with 250 000 trained troops (+ several hundred thousand more in reserves), 800 heavy tanks and thousands of other armored vehicles, artillery, mortars and other gear.

 

I am extremely well informed of the situation actually, but that's not really the point i was making either.

 

could use the same argument for all kinds of military weapons, machine guns, explosives, ect....

that said, I am not against owning those, just against people walking the streets with them - against crazy people that can't control their tempers owning them

 

Fuel depots and AHA's (Ammo Holding Areas) are usually way behind the fighting (FEBA - Forward Edge of the Battle Area).

It only takes proper planning to destroy the enemies utilities yet leave them repairable. When I was in Iraq we were near a huge power plant that had been left untouched. There was a small building nearby that was the distribution center for the energy delivery system. The small building was crushed and power was denied to the Iranians. When we arrived it took only three days to rebuild the small distribution center and everything was back online.

 

So are citizens of an invaded country, aka guerillas.

 

Ones opinion of the effectiveness of small arms against heavy military equipment has NOTHING to do with whether one is labelled as a liberal or something else by one side of the centre or the other.
It is this facile finger pointing is not either relevant or honest. You are confusing a perceived political position with opinions about something unconnected ...whether one would accept whether small arms can be effectively used against large equipment. That is an issue more allied to physics than politics.
And serves as a desperate effort to cast all those the author decides is a Liberal, as mistaken by using an example which is unknown as being accurate.
As said, much of the fight back is by using heavy equipment both owned by Ukraine or loaned by the many countries which have sent them to help.

 

Horse ****. Ukranian civilians are fighting off Russian soldiers with Ak47s so people can get close enough to use Anti tank rockets on Russian armor. Your argument is **** because you don't know a damn thing about war.

 

Ukrainian army is not sending civilians to plow the way to Russian tanks to make it safer for military to use anti tank rockets. Where are you getting this information?

 

THere is countless videos of Ukranian citizens attacking russian soldiers.

 

Exactly the place you're likely to find armed citizen militia units - partisans, even.
Especially in this conflict.

And yet, the Soviets have left them mostly intact.
Why?

 

You speak from willful ignorance.

 

If Russia was willing to use their capability, Molotov cocktails and small arms wouldn't be relevant.

Ukraine hasn't been defended by armed citizens yet.

 

Yup... guerillas are everywhere... as the Russians will probably soon find out.
But the "rear" areas RIGHT NOW are inside Russia and Belarus. That will change if they become "occupiers".

 

I'm not sure I would be too confident with that comparison given how we "came together" (we did NOT) to face a pandemic. People that didn't have enough sense not to strong arm senior citizens in the grocery stores during lockdowns, depleted stock as soon as it hit the shelves and wouldn't socially distance, wear masks, get vaccinated and/or help their own families and/or neighbors aren't going to instantly get that "loving spirit". Heck, we can't even go a couple hours around here without people blowing a gasket. Our own former POTUS praised the bully in that war.

Please don't hold onto any hope that anybody is going to join forces against any outside enemy because our biggest enemy is us

 

Trump praised Putin as a strategist... not as an invading, murderous thug. Robert E' Lee is studied and praised at West Point as a brilliant strategist and tactician... NOT... NOT.... NOT as a slave owner.

 

Fair enough. Although, Trump is quite fond of Putin, Xi and Jong-un. A little too much love in, IMO.

 

There are plenty of rear areas in Ukraine where the Russians have penetrated.

 

Where did you get the idea that Trump has anything but disdain for North Korea? He stopped their nuke tests. He stopped their missile tests. He got the remains of some of our heroes back and returned home with three American hostages. And never gave North Korea a single dime. Clinton got nothing and gave them lots of money. Trump shook Kim's hand, but was far from favorable with him.

 

I'd call them FAST's (Forward Area Support Teams)... the "rear areas" where you actually have huge depots... are not in Ukraine yet... and probably won't be until most of the shooting is over. FAST's have significant logistic support from medical (like a MASH), AHA's (ammo holding areas but hardly "depots"), and such.

 

Where did you get the idea Trump was fond of Putin? or Xi?

 

He said that he liked Jong-un's ability to keep people out of North Korea (compared to our overflowing immigration problems) and that he had a beautiful vision for his country.

It was reported that Trump's aides pleaded with him to not publicly compliment Xi about their handling of the virus because Xi wouldn't allow investigators into the Wuhan Lab.

So, I "get" that he wants to appear cordial but it often comes off as putting others above his own country. I think that's why he had to back-pedal on the comments about Putin. He's not really good with filtering himself.

 

I don't know if CNN is considered left or right. I just picked the first article that Google pulled up.

15 times Trump praised dictators

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html