What Else Is Wrong with Obamacare? ... It's not not just the mandate!

Yet healthcare is at the lowest inflation rate in 50 years.

 

Yet it was okay for the Heritage Foundation to think it up and stand on stage with Romney saying how good it was. Funny thing is the roll out in Mass was tuff yet in Mass they love it. Republicans could have offered something 6 years before yet they were more concerned with attacking an innocent country to the tune of 2 trillion dollars. That would have paid for everyones healthcare.

 

Still waiting for those death panels...

It sure is fun to revisit some of the fearmongering nonsense propogated by conservatives...

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...eny-care-cancer-patient-palin-vindicated.html

 

The reimbursement rate is so low, no doctors will see you if you have an Obama Crap Policy. Mine reimbursed my doctor $9.40 for an office visit with 2 injections that cost $150+. Any wonder why I went from 6 days from appointment contact to actual appointment to 36 days?

 

No, we don't want that!

We want to lower the mortality rate considerably.

We want to make sure that large sections of the population avoid medical care because they can't afford it!

We want to go back to the old days, when old people and poor people died of easily treated illnesses!

That's the conservative way!

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Is there some point behind the fact that you posted a nearly four year old article from a very unreliable right wing trash blog, and repeated in bold a set of claims that have long since been discredited???????

 

I hate to break this to you, but the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the individual mandate two and a half years ago.

 

Because we know it has.

The insurers who provided policies for the exchanges have done well so far, and other insurers are adding their names to the list, expanding choices for the people in the exchanges.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...spitals-enjoying-the-profit-of-nbsp-Obamacare

 

If you read the article on the Washington Times poll that another right winger posted on another thread, it appears as though the opposite is happening.

 

Yup, I know a couple who are struggling and thanks to Obamacare pay $40.00 a month for good health care coverage.

As opposed to the $800 a month they were paying .....



And there are LOTS of people like them....

 

You mean thanks to other tax payers they are only paying 40.00 a month.

 

The Affordable Care Act leaves much to be desired that derives directly from its model, RomneyCare, with its essential "universal mandate" labeled "ultimate conservatism" by its chief proponent who successfully campaigned for its passage and signed it into law. As a windfall for the private insurance cartel, it won lavish praise from the conservative Heritage Foundation, and was celebrated and endorsed by prominent Tea Party Boy Jim DeMint as, "something we should do for the whole country!"

As a practical, pragmatic matter, placating the powerful health insurance lobby was a blatant abandonment of cost control, but may have been a political necessity. Nevertheless, that superfluous middle man confiscates a sizable chunk of every health care dollar to lavishly compensate its executives and meet its payroll, advertise and market its products, lobby and make substantial contributions to politicians, and, of course, profit. Needless to say, the multiple duplications of administrative procedures by the various profiteers is monumentally inefficient and drives up their overhead - costs ultimately assessed to the average American. Yet, these corporate entities neither treat nor cure anyone - the mission of health care.

Until that parasitic element that sucks the system can be eviscerated, the Affordable Care Act will do little to alleviate the costs that have been rising for decades, and the US will be unable to substantially reduce that price tag to the level of advanced nations that average around half of what Americans must pay.

 

You mean other than the fact that this OP was from 2011?

Necro'd threads are Necro'd

 

I hate to break this to you...............but you are replying to a quote from 3 years ago...............

 

O'care was destined to fail the American people. It was never about affordable care or creating a better overall HC system, ever. The sole motive in O'care was to give the central authority in DC a legal means to control 1/6 of the economy. And no matter how you slice and dice the laws ramifications, when applied to the vast majority of American people, the bad far exceeds the good. Of course, in the world of progressives, bad big government outcomes aren't possible when they're running the show, so it's a mute point as far as they're concerned.

 

I pay $739 a month for two people (one of whom is over 60) with no subsidies.

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This is a totally made up rant.

The ACA does not give the Federal government control of the health care system at all.

But a lot of people (a majority in fact) wish that it had. There has never been a poll in the last 50 years that didn't show that the majority of Americans would prefer a single payer national health care system, like the ones all the modern countries have. Better health care, much lower costs, and real accountability. All the things the US private system lacks!

 

I'm not naïve I know my Medicaid is welfare so are ACA Subsidies those are welfare, but that is the system we have, I would favor a National Health Service option system as a default for care if poor or uninsured while maintaining a private system of insurance and cash for care options. It would likely if done right cost less.

But something had to be done unless your willing to ban the poor uninsured from hospitals, that is not going to happen, enough low income still vote to cause issues and neither party wants to look heartless.

 

So what? There were some people paying far less pre-O'care. There are people who pay basically zero for food, should we all get food stamps?

No, it's not made up. But what was made up was "you can keep your plan and DR." and the "ACA would save the average family THOUSANDS!!!"

 

it's not just the conservatives mandate, it's the lack of a pubic option