What EVERY Christian Does...

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Snob ;)

    Seriously, it's snobbish to pretend that only Christians behave that way, especially when many Christians don't. Heck, the Bible doesn't even teach tolerance of other views, but that everyone must either convert or DIE.
     
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    Who said only Christians are that way? Not me. So is that your belief? Bummer. I have friends who are Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish and atheists who are exactly that way. Especially my Buddhist friends. I think that is probably the purest of religions in regards to attraction vs. coercion / violence. I just don't like the part about ignoring everything that makes us human.

    As far as what the Bible teaches? Actually, the sad thing is that Jesus taught exactly those things. Unfortunately, like all organized religions, many subscribing to Christianity ignore The Message and instead, use worship of the Messenger as means to justify the opposite of The Message.
     
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    Jesus purportedly claimed he had come to bring strife, not peace. In his own purported words, he had come to divide families. His message of belief and salvation was paramount over all other concerns.

    There is nothing about accepting others in there. Not Old and not New - the entire bible is very narrow in its vision of truth and what's right.
     
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    Are you a Christian? A theologian?
    There is NOTHING about accepting others? Are you sure?

    It seems as if you lack objectivity on this matter. Look at our discussion. Have I projected a single belief or position on you because you are (I assume) an atheist or agnostic? No. I don't seek to prove you "are" or believe something because you are part of a group. But that seems to be your primary agenda. This is not logical but it IS exactly what many Christians do regarding anyone with differing beliefs. So how are you different?

    I've paraphrased a few verses just a bit:

    Whomever you would consider to be the lowest among you, they may be the greatest. Treat them as such.
    Don't love only people who are and believe just like you. Even the lowlifes can do that. Love those you would be tempted to hate.
    No matter how different someone is or what they have done, forgive them. This is the ultimate strength.
    Don't worry about the beliefs or actions of other people. You're so screwed up, you need to just worry about your own self.
    If you want to point your finger at someone's actions that's fine. Just make sure you have never done anything wrong in your life and it's all good. So it's not like your "sins" are of better quality than someone else's.
    Any time you refuse to help someone you could have helped, you've missed a chance to make your life better, richer and more fulfilling. You've screwed up.
    Self-righteous people are dicks.
     
  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've paraphrased a few verses just a bit

    :shock: Understatement. But not much there that's relevant to the notion of debating ideas and beliefs. I have no respect for unfounded beliefs or ideas that I perceive to be harmful. I'm especially upset at biblical literalists.

    That stuff about not hating people - well, I don't hate people for holding such beliefs. As you might tell me, love the sinner, hate the sin. I like the believer just fine, but I have no love for their beliefs.
     
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    Okay fine. So what beliefs of mine give you such umbridge?
     
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    You are also "told" that it is not the word of God. You also do not "know" that it is not.

    You also think for yourself, question the ones who told you. What credibility they have about this entire univerve to disprove God don't exist and there are no creator?
     
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    I can go with you on that. :)

    And not false "I love you but..." stuff. The real thing.
     
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    I'm not sure he /she meant only Christians feel the need to act that way. It's more that we follow the lead of Christ who taught us to act that way. That doesn't exclude anyone else.

    You guys have kind of itchy trigger fingers.
     
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    The truth.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    What did Jesus say?

    Matthew 10:5 (CEB) = Jesus sent these twelve out and commanded them, “Don’t go among the Gentiles or into a Samaritan city".

    Matthew 15:24 (CEB) = Jesus replied, “I’ve been sent only to the lost sheep, the people of Israel.”

    Acts 10:28 (CEB) = He (Peter) said to them, “You all realize that it is forbidden for a Jew to associate or visit with outsiders...."
     
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    No "buts". I don't care if someone is atheist, Buddhist or whatever, they are one with the single living force that connects all things. The idea that something so infinite, could be petty, vengeful, incapable of understanding socio-environmental conditions that lead to the myriad beliefs we have, seems absurd to me.
     
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    That is the nature of every religion - what is your point?
     

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