What harm does adult porn do?

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The more reputable studios have a script of sources. They do walk throughs and block the set ahead of time, then do around 3 sessions to film one video, and there are various topical, prescription, and OTC's available on set as needed.
     
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    It's a hard call. I think it's a bit like the sale of human organs, in theory it could work out without causing incidental harm. But there it set's up dynamics in society that produce sufficient harm that a society can defend excluding it as reasonably as they could make organ sale, prostitution, suicide, smoking marijuana, smoking tobacco, or consuming alcohol illegal.

    Were it to come to a vote, I'd probably abstain. But if it were made illegal tomorrow, I wouldn't loose any more sleep over that decision that anything else in the above list.




     
  3. btthegreat

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    Of course its trickier because unlike organ sale, prostitution etc, pornographic speech has been deemed just that. Unless there is a strong and compelling reason to regulate content or access, the courts won't tolerate efforts to intervene. Incidental harm is not going pass muster.
     
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    *shrug* Hasn't before now. May not in the future. I agree it's in that grey area between easy calls. It's certainly regulated though.




     
  5. btthegreat

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    For the most part, those regulations reflect a compelling interest in protecting minors from access or exploitation. A city may regulate through zoning (100 feet from a school), through consumer identification ( ratings systems) or by requiring a brown wrapping cover, or display behind a counter. Beyond that, its much harder to justify. I am fine with all that. when you start looking for ways to inhibit access to adults, I get nervous about governmental overreach.
     
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    It turns human sexuality into a commodity. It degrades the participant and the consumer in the process.

    While I don't go so far as to say it should be banned, however to proclaim it has no consequences is very naive.
     
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    I understand that is the common perception but what are the real consequences of this 'degradation' or turning sexuality into a commodity? How do you or more accurately social scientists or psychologists quantify and measure the harm? Where is the evidence that your hypothesis is reflected in a real impact? Any empirical evidence that you know of?
     
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    I've seen marriages collapse because otherwise good men, get addicted to pornography...keeping terabytes of it on their computers.

    I just have to laugh when folks say, it's harmless...perhaps if you're some lonely sad sack living in a basement (not you, just presenting a hypothetical) it's an escape from life's cruel reality you can't have an actual relationship with a female or male as it were. However if you're in a relationship, it is definitely disrespectful to your partner and I regard it as a form of cheating.

    I'm in a relationship at the moment, I'm not going to tempt myself with on-line pornography..because I care about this person. It's a relationship, you know seeing your partner as a complete human being, not merely T & A. Pornography creates the illusion a human being is a one dimensional sexual entity whose sole value is to generate pleasure.
     
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    We should all be nervous about government overreach. But living in a society with other people means compromises. If compromise is going to occur, I would object least to it happening with this stuff.




     
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    They likely have other issues and this is just how it manifests itself.
     
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    There are harmful effects of pornography on marriage. Studies have borne this out.

    Would you like it if someone you are in love with, and care about was staring into a computer screen at another person...mentally fantasizing they are having sex with you while simultaneously masturbating?

    because that's all it is really...it's a visual tool to aid in masturbation...you're fantasizing about another person. There's nothing "magical" about what's going on. It's pretty base actually, chimpanzees do it quite often also, the only difference is humans use higher forms of technology to accomplish the same thing.

    Personally I wouldn't be too thrilled about having a girl friend or wife who spent hours a week looking to get off to another person or persons having sex, personally I'd probably find another girl friend or wife if they were doing this on a consistent basis. Therefore why do I want to do something to someone that I wouldn't want done to me meaning fantasizing and masturbating about another person on a regular basis.

    That's just me.
     
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    Addiction has lots of harmful effects. Some people can drink responsibly and some cannot. Same with porn.
     
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    I have heard it recommended when sexual appetites are very different. Some want sex once every couple of weeks, others want it every morning and night. If they marry one may feel exhausted and overwhelmed, the other frustrated and neglected. Masterbation to porn, is seen as a solution rather than a betrayal.
     
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    It harms the institution of marriage.
     
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    got any empirical data showing that divorce is more likely with a moderate use of porn? I know of couples that watch together.
     
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    No one cares, I'll qualify that...I personally don't care if someone peruses pornography morning, noon and night. The only qualification is of course child pornography and no decent society can tolerate that.

    I'm sure your employer will care if you look at porn at work, most companies have policies against it and you'll be terminated more than likely if you are caught.

    I'm sure your wife or girl friend will care if you spend a lot of time consuming porn.

    Me...I could care less what you do.

    Yet, guys will rationalize it...as though I care.

    look masturbate to your hearts content....eat, drink and smoke yourself yourself to death...I don't care.

    You don't to have rationalize it to me, I'm aware of the dopamine release and brain chemicals involved. It's origin is actually the brain stem, porn stimulates the reptilian portion of our minds, it is not higher ordered thinking..it's a base function.

    So to sum up...if your wife or girl friend is cool with you viewing it and you don't view it at work...more power to you. Me, personally I would have a problem with a wife or girl friend looking at it alot, therefore there is no way I would do that to them and make them feel anxious about their own body.

    Porn establishes unrealistic expectations in terms of sexuality, not only does long term and extended use alter your brain chemicals it poisons the persons ability to have REAL relationships, not pixels and electrons with a woman who probably wouldn't give you the time of day in real life.

    Fantasy is fine, but not when it interferes with reality...high dosages of porn is indicative of dysfunction.
     
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    Everyone häs missed the real point here, Porn is not the real issue, if there were no Porno videos or magazines or Internet Porn, if it all went POOF !
    People would find another means to fill the vacuum left by Porn, when I was in the 4th Grade, children drew their own Porn drawings.

    It is about vicarious gratification, Porn is merely a means to an end furthering personal fantasies about sex, some men are not happy or sexually fulfilled in their current circumstances, Porn allows gratification of desires otherwise unspoken and unfulfilled.
     
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    People are by nature Dysfunctional to varying degrees on a scale of 1 - 10, 10 being completely Dysfunctional, People have methods of coping with Dysfunction, Functionally Dysfunctional, so Porn and other Fantasies are stop gap methods of dealing with the less savory parts of reality, like closing your eyes and Fantasizing about a Porn Star while making love to Wifey.
     
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    It gives me an inferiority complex! :eyepopping: [​IMG]
     
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    At it's lowest common denominator, people watch porn to get sexually stimulated and in most cases, end up masturbating. Bee Eff Dee.
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    I have been trying to make "best use" of Porn by practicing not judging women by the clothes they don't wear on the Internet, and porting it to real life whenever I have the presence of mind to do so. I love modern times.
     
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    As far as fertility goes, I disregard the notion of porn-consumption being bad for your sperm count as utter and complete nonsense. I cannot just possibly see the logic or correlation behind that reasoning. It is just plain propaganda, a notion with a clear agenda just like all the bollox being spread about cannabis.

    However, if it turns into an obsessive addiction it is (obviously)- just like any other obsession- very bad for your overall health. As far as standards and expectations go, porn might have a negative effect on some men, but overall most men manage to keep realistic standards and most men can tell reality from fantasy.
     
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    Like any pleasure, porn is subject to abuse and addiction. That doesn't make porn good or bad.

    Like shoes or IPADs sometimes the people who make the "pleasure" are abused. That doesn't make shoes, IPADs or Porn good or bad.

    I looked at it when i was much younger but I don't do it anymore, find it boring (seriously, if I find a Playboy I read the jokes and cartoons). But, if you enjoy and enjoy without compulsion, then enjoy.
     
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    ... i don't know.

    Porn helps me become more ambidextrous, and helps me ward off Alzheimer's, at the same time.
     
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    I thought porn made for better roads, aqueducts and mo better well regulated Militia ?

    Better fallacy ?
     

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