What if there is no abrahamic god?

Nope.. Solomon was the third king .. Omri was the sixth.

 

That's odd. According to my Bible Omri was king of Israel - the northern Kingdom in the 9th century BCE.. The northern kingdom (Israel) split from the southern (Judah)after Solomons death. 10th Century BCE Perhaps Omri tidied up for Solomon. Israel - as a United Kingdom - was ruled over loosely by Saul, but as a United Kingdom only by two kings, David and Solomon.

 

Ooops sorry. I've overlapped your post again. You're quite correct. Omni was after Solomon - as above.

 

Thanks.. For a moment there I wasn't sure I'd gotten it right.

 

Ok, why don't you tell us in your opinion exactly what "work" God requires and we'll take it from there....

 

I sometimes wonder what Bible people use. So often they don't agree with the 4 variations that I use.

Incidentally, if you're interested, there's a good book by Robert P Gordon, which is a commentary on the books of 1 & 2 Samuel. He goes through each verse with background explanations, possible different interpretations in translation, and practises of the day on which the story of Saul and David is set. It's not a book for easy reading but helps with study.

EG 1 Samuel 16:20 Explanation. an ass laden with bread. lit. 'an ass of bread', which could be idiomatic or textually deficient. NEB 'homer' (Heb.homer) represents a dry measure, perhaps meaning 'assload', and involves minimal alteration of the text. McCarter, following the LXX prefers 'omer' (omer) which was a much smaller measure than the homer.
One example of possible mistranslation by the LXX interpreters.

Ooops. The book is called I & II Samuel. A Commentary. Robert P Gordon.

Regency Reference Library, Zondervan Publishing House.

 

Ah, I see you're another conspiracy-theorist mate, as if we haven't already got enough of them here....

 

Thank you....

 

The priestly classes and scribes certainly knew how to read and write (as did Jesus), and the ordinary people trooped along to the local synagogue to hear them recite from the Torah,
But generally speaking the people themselves couldn't read or write simply because there was no need to learn because there were no newspapers or comic books etc around..
For example this guy does a good analysis and concludes that the literacy rate of ancient Israel was only 3%-

"..total literacy rate in the Land of Israel at that time (of Jews only, of
course), was probably less than 3%."
http://evidenceforchristianity.org/were-people-literate-in-the-time-of-jesus-r/

 

Just for the record I said earlier "If my maths are right.." but after double-checking I see they weren't, as Omri came after Solomon-


http://www.kchanson.com/CHRON/isrkings.html

 

Saw this post from you before. But Jesus was only a carpenters son, an ordinary man.

Soferim = scribes, The scribes and priestly classes. They taught and laid down rules, social and religious. One of those rules for small villages was that someone who could read the Tanakh should do so. It doesn't say that only one person could, or that there was only one in the village that could.

Israel was a different society to m ost. In most societies people did not need to read to follow, say, their agricultural life. Israel was a religious state where the Torah ruled their lives in all its aspects.
These scribes, during the Maccabean times, interpreted the Oral Torah for the people, they included explaining their original Halakhot interpretations (not going into that). Because of their actions the teaching of the Torah was no longer confined to the priests and Levites. From among the pupils these people taught, many scholars rose from all classes of the populace.
Literacy is a wide term. You don't have to be a scholar to be literate.

 

Who cares what I think ? (other than me of course). The question is what Jesus thought and I have given you this already. You seem to like info in one sentence bullets (Twitter style) but you should take 5 minutes and read the Matt 5-7 for yourself.


If you want the short version "Do unto others as you would have done to you" Not complicated. If you do not want others stealing, killing, raping you ... then do not do the same to others.

This is the rock on which Jesus built his ministry.

 

LOL ... Just because you can not handle the truth is no reason degenerate into ad-hom fallacy and cherry pick sentences out of my post in order to hide behind ignorance.

I gave you the link. If you want to call the consensus position among Biblical Scholars - "Conspiracy" - that makes you the "Conspiracy-Theorist"

 

I really enjoyed it. You should be ready though to read about some very arcane and complicated philosophical debates. For instance, they argued for hundreds of years about Mary.

 

I am familiar with many of the " man-God/ God-man" debates that went on and of some of the history of the time so I look forward to the read.

In particular it is interesting how there was such debate within the church itself - to the point of killing and forcing nuns to take communion ! And that the only reason the debate is settled today is because over many centuries those with differing opinions were killed off ... and yet, today so many folks just accept the flawed doctrine that came out of this time as "word of God".

 

Well, that was farther down the road than the period this book covers but it's all quite a story as you mentioned. If you like this era, try another book that is really fascinating. Its called "In the shadow of the sword" by Tim Holland. Traces the rise and fall of religions in Persia, Mesopotamia and Saudi Arabia from around 400 to 1100AD. That one will blow your mind.

 

Thanks.

 

If there was no Abrahamic God, we'd all be worshipping cows.

 

Cows are real.

 

Libs would have dropped the cow worship once it was known cows' flatulence is a major source of greenhouse gas.

 

Monkeys are the real gods.

 

That doesn't make any sense. Given the preponderance of non-Abrahamic religions in the world, more likely the primary worship would be "the spirits" or the Sun.

 

Millions do worship the Sun. Even people from the UK. Just pop over to Florida in the summer and see the services on the beach where people bare their 'souls' - well bodies - in open adoration.