What is god and what does it do?

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  1. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    That question is far too vague to answer with any degree of conciseness. First is that a philosophical question or a religious question? By that I mean do you want an answer from an philosophical perspective or from a religious perspective? The two categories do not disagree with each other but are very much different.

    My belief is that when God created the big bang singularity he also inserted the information needed to produce a life giving universe that would produce not only life but sentient life. Then the universe progressed by natural law with very little intervention that suspended or modified that natural law.

    *Cof* Briefly, (but enough info for this thread) The second law of thermodynamics tells us that entropy (roughly means disorder) increases in closed or isolated system processes. Entropy never decreases. As far as your mention of causality, I can say that time has an arrow called surprise, surprise the arrow of time which means it has a direction. Things break but never un-break hence the ‘arrow of time‘ moniker. (Google arrow of time for info). Some physicists, disagree that the arrow of time is related to the 2nd law, but more than not accept entropy of the universe causing the AOT. Personally I feel the 2nd law does cause the arrow of time, and reject for now newer theories for lack of evdience etc.

    What system is wrong? Are you saying the 2nd law causes causality or a one casuality in a system ? Please be precise.


    What you are paradigm shift I am calling fringe theory if even that. If you are trying to describe new theories they are more like the 'new' Big Bang theories. All math no empirical evdiences.

    In your cut and paste you forgot to remove the reference to footnote '2'. Please correct it.


    A bunch of what? Gas? Poo? thats what happens when I eat a bunch of? Lol...this is reply is getting weirder and weirder!
    Huh? That is so vague it could mean anything. Who observes nature and why do you say instinct is most often observed? What is the instinct of the universe or other non biological systems?

    What? Are you defining life in lay terms? If so life is to replicate etc. Again your comments are far too vague and incomplete to make much sense.

    Huh?

    What rule? What kind of wavelength and what kind of wave causes it? Energy DOES seek equilibrium, heat energy seeks equilibrium etc ! Lol the rest of that ? Its word salad!

    Back in prophecy when what?
    Huh?

    What? There are those waves again same question what kind of waves? What wavelengths ? It sounds like you are making half of this up and then cut and pasting another third and the other third (see below)...
    Well one out of two! You are improving!


    reva
     
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    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    What caused the big bang singularity to begin to exist? Everything known has a 'cause' to begin to exist.

    Lastly the server froze and didnt allow me to post this addition to the post above. Go to this part;

    by Bishadi said; " it's an underlying principle to comprehend and in the combining of elements and energy, that sam 'progression' is found, which is quite opposite to an equilibriation. "


    Reva saud; "Huh?"

    And I was attempting to add this ;

    " Even if I understand some of what you are saying your comments are far too wishey-washey and incomplete to answer. For example; By what mechanisms do ‘we’ exist? The ‘we’ that describes ourselves? The brain of a biological system? Or a mind that needs no corporeal body and brain? Or something else? Where did code come from to make this mind or brain ? "

    Man this server po's me!


    reva
     
  3. Anobsitar

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    Nothing

    But if nothing is existing then a cause is also not existing. No space, no time, no energy, no entropy, no information, no cause ... nothing ... Oh by the way: http://youtu.be/IPMnMmnZ2Zc

    Wonderful expression "wishey-washey"

    History of life

    In this point of view you are some electrochemical impulses on a [nearly] two-dimensional membran interacting by and with electrons and light. The fascinating thing: We are not able to feel this but we are maybe light, very light.

    I don't know what you are - but I am the universe ... a part of the universe ... a living part of the universe ... a living part of the universe loving life ... the only problem is perhaps not to lose the entrance card to heaven. I like to see there for example one day the best concert with the best musicians ever existed.

    http://youtu.be/ayHzg8oMvV0
     
  4. stroll

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    A practical one.
    What does a god actually do?
    As I already stated, it's easy to say when a raingod is concerned, but creator gods are kinda redundant after the creation is complete, unless they decide to interfere in their own creation by answering prayers or punishing those who do not praise him.
     
  5. Bishadi

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    are you autistic?

    how is that question vague?

    It is a simple question that makes believers finding themselves facing their own integrity. just like you did.
    no need to classify the inquiry.

    Just answer it, so you can begin to question YOURSELF.

    put it this way, if liars were not making up sh't that god does and did, there would be no religions


    honesty and truth as huge in divide

    How many know which end you rest?
     
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    are you autistic?

    how is that question vague?

    It is a simple question that makes believers finding themselves facing their own integrity. just like you did.
    no need to classify the inquiry.

    Just answer it, so you can begin to question YOURSELF.

    put it this way, if liars were not making up sh't that god does and did, there would be no religions


    honesty and truth as huge in divide

    How many know which end you rest?
     
  7. Bishadi

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    reeeeeeellly
    so now you just told us, what he per se 'did' do.

    did you get the 'God created the big bang singularity he also inserted the information needed to produce a life' from the bible, an angel, prophet or 'god'?

    the 2LoT is made moot by observing the 1st

    if 'some physicist' or any physics reverses time to an system in qm, you have order

    kind of like adding the 'eating' part versus just pooping

    walking the planck?

    http://www.chemteam.info/Chem-History/Planck-1901/Planck-1901.html

    I. CALCULATIONS OF THE ENTROPY OF A RESONATOR AS A FUNCTION OF ITS ENERGY

    §1. Entropy depends on disorder and this disorder, according to the electromagnetic theory of radiation for the monochromatic vibrations of a resonator when situated in a permanent stationary radiation field, depends on the irregularity with which it constantly changes its amplitude and phase, provided one considers time intervals large compared to the time of one vibration but small compared to the duration of a measurement. If amplitude and phase both remained absolutely constant, which means completely homogeneous vibrations, no entropy could exist and the vibrational energy would have to be completely free to be converted into work.


    have you ever seen a science paper?
     
  8. Bishadi

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    so when jesus said 'light of life' and 'take up your cross', you didnt think that was fringe?

    Do you even know what the light of your life is? It is it a picture above your bed?
    the bb is wrong

    and i knew that 3 decades back
    i agree

    the bb is as stupid as a god creating everything from nothing.

    th bb is as much a story of creation as genesis



    the honest, already know they were born after 'in the beginning' so to lie about its creation, is about a stupid as believing a creation.
     
  9. Bishadi

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    in a sense, you are right.

    and since none ever existed prior to being in the middle of the beginning and ending, then the pursuit of prior, is just a want.

    no one can provide any evidence, unless mathematically

    stories of in the beginning are queers(fairy)tales

    quite the opposite. Your level of education is wishy washy and the material is often backed up with examples and papers (seee science section) and it is denial and ignorance, that your posts keep reflecting.

    imagine if you asked jesus about light and life and the mechanism
    the interrelation of mass (elements), energy (light), and time; the trinity of 'god' (nature itself)


    mankind-nature-god is one of itself.

    We are of nature, the elements, of light, in this time; FACT!
    evolved over time.

    go see god (nature) and dig into his archives (knowledge, the earth)
    that is what i was thinking about you.
     
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    God hangs out with other Gods, including his wife and many children, and occasionally creates mortal beings on a number of planets for experimentation and amusement.

    This is all explained perfectly well in Genesis .. Let "us" create man in "our" image ..

    Gods are like Humans !
     
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    mankind is of the garden (nature), period!

    mankind created the 'word' (we are capable of articulating an opinion (position) of an 'i' (point in time), with words, symbols etc...)

    mankind is describing over time (books)

    knowledge has evolved (any idiot to deny that?)



    and in the big picture, noting that most every conscious life ever born has wanted to know what the f'ck we are, why, how, etc.....


    be certain that just because some are fvking lazy

    the good aint

    folks................... we gotta an internet

    we are 1

    and can know it, by choice


    and it is real...................


    it's time to parrrrrrrrrrrty!!!



    i know i am an it, here, defining

    can you too?
     
  12. Anobsitar

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    Question: Would you say "energy is evolution" or would you say "energy is creation"?

    http://youtu.be/91euERWH2M4
     
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    neither

    but found in both
     
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    Nice way to say nothing.

    In a not existing moment existed no energy at all - "suddenly" existed a first moment and all energy. Since this moment of creation until the end of the universe no one ever was, is and will be able to create some new energy - except the paradigmata of natural science would be wrong.

    http://youtu.be/vX07j9SDFcc
     
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    ...or is this an admission that the comment has not been understood?

    Who claims any such nonsense, looks like something else was misunderstood as well.
     
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    i just read a post that you wrote that called a man in the dirt, god.

    what?


    'no speeky any inglish'
    it's a phenomenon, that all of mankind has experienced.

    born

    not even 'god'?

    Did jesus create ghonasyphilherpalaids?

    So it was newly created, after both 'god' and jesus (the utter god), right? You can just answer yes and no, to avoid posting another lie.
     
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    no comment

    http://youtu.be/ADxjdGxFzyA
     
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    Firstly, God is a He, not an it, not a "she", not anything else but HE. God is Him.

    Secondly, God separates MAN from ANIMAL. He gave MAN FREE WILL. He didn't give other, lesser animals, free will. He gave this immense cosmic power to MAN. Not woman, not child, but MAN. MAN has the power to CHOOSE FREELY with his WILL. This puts MAN ABOVE ANIMAL. We have a CHOICE. Animals do not. Animals do not have choices.

    However, many men, after receiving FREE WILL, CHOOSE to give it up. They don't want it. They try to give it BACK to God. They want to revert to an animal. And many men, who are tricked and lured by Satan, do exactly that. They lead unfulfilling, worthless, meaningless, pathetic, purposeless lives with NOTHING to show for it. These are all men who REJECTED GOD, and REJECTED FREE WILL.
     
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    Curious - how does a non-corporeal entity have gender? Gender is defined physically and physiologically. In fact, everything about us is..
     
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    Why do you KNOW God is a non-corporeal entity?

    You don't know, do you? Or, are you claiming to know God, Durandal? YOU SEE!!! This is what I've been trying to show to all you atheists, secularists, and agnostics. YOU are claiming that God is non-corporeal. HOW DO YOU KNOW?!!!!! How are you claiming to know what God is, or is not? How are you able to say God is this or not?

    For all YOU know, God could be real, and physical, and you wouldn't know, would you? You haven't thought about God. That much is clear to all of us TRUE CHRISTIANS. If you put a little bit of THOUGHT into God, then you wouldn't be so easily manhandled, intellectually, by CHRISTIANS.
     
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    How do you explain God being male? Do you believe in a physical god? Is he human? Did he also evolve?
     
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    The Bible has written and kept record of the Word of God, and He is the proper pronoun. You can understand this by studying some simple linguistic history. Women were exempt from literacy for most of world history. Women could not read or write, or expected to. So the masculine pronoun was used in all forms of early writing. That is why the word MAN is universal. Women are not men.

    Always remember, God gave MAN free will. This doesn't mean women, children, or animals have free will. Because they don't. ONLY MAN has that power, that gift, that responsibility, that duty, that meaning in life.
     
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    In essence, the bible told you so. Got it.
     
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    Not necessarily, I'm a Heretic. Sometimes we go against the Bible, especially that book of blasphemy people call the "New Testament". Heretics exist to keep TRUE CHRISTIANS true. We are not necessarily an official part of the church. We are inside AND OUTSIDE the realm of the church.

    Many heretics have died keeping churches true to God, especially the Catholic Church. Not even the most pious men are absolutely pure. Satan can corrupt almost anyone.
     
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    That's totally wrong. Perhaps you are able to find a way out of this quagmire if you think about that god is our bearing father and we are his children. Your sexual motivations are compleltly unimportant in case of spirituality. Patriarachat, matriarchat and so on are political problems - not really spiritual problems. Every man, woman and child is created in his way - we are his children - he is our father. I could also say "she is our mother" or "she is our father" or "he is our mother". That's all the same.

    http://youtu.be/moBvLFbFdJ4
     

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