What is Husserlian Phenomenology?

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    Dark Star (1974): Phenomenology and Thermosteller Nuclear Bomb #20.
    Heidegger begins his examination into the question of Being using a method that Husserl founded called “phenomenology.” Heidegger was a student of Husserl and took certain concepts of phenomenology and applied them to his interest in the concept of “to be.” Heidegger utilizes the phenomenological descriptive method which describes and uncovers the essential structure of any examined phenomena. The phenomenological method seeks to dispense with pre-constituted meanings, we can include
    logoi (plural of logos) and reveal the genesis of all meaning structures. The phenomenological conceptual tools provided by Husserl are the Epoché (ἐποχή, epokhē ), and is understood as “the act of suspending judgment about the natural world that precedes phenomenological analysis.” Husserl used the word “intuition” to mean what is immediately present, comprehensible to sense perception, our memories, and our imaginations. Whenever we perceive the world, our first experience is our own ideas. Husserlian phenomenology sought to systematize essences, logical forms, and explicate the intersubjective totality of meanings that members of a culture share. The other tool of analysis Husserl provides is the method of Eidetic reduction to vary the possibilities of appearance of any kind to derive essences and therefore their clear meanings. Eidetic is from Greek, εἶδος, (eidos) that which is seen, form, shape, figure.

    A particular form of Being is “ontic” and these are the everyday objects of experience and scientific investigation. However, any object can be questioned as to its meaning as a form of Being. This aspect of beings is “ontological.” Dasein [for our purpose human-beingness] has the ontic characteristic to be ontological—this means, it is a historical fact of Human beings that they are able to question the meaning of their own existence. An inquiry into entities is “ontic,” but an investigation of Being is “ontological.”

    Phenomenology is the science of φαινόμενον, phenomenon, meaning, (photon), bring to light, make to appear, to show. Anything that shows or shines is a phenomenon. Heidegger makes the phenomenological distinction between mere appearing and appearance. Schein, means, semblence, “outward or surface appearance,” or misleading appearance--as it is not. On the other hand, Erscheinung means the way in which the thing appears, but is also a mark, or sign of what a thing is. The example used is a “symptom.” Red spots appear on the skin, but they signify something else, a fever. So the spots are Erscheinung of the fever. It is the thing that appears, but not what is meant. Phenomenon is what shows itself as itself. Neither semblence nor sign are possible without something appearing so phenomenon underlies all appearances.

    But it is precisely the investigation of appearance that Heidegger breaks from Husserl. If phenomenon shows itself as itself then why is a phenomenological method needed in the first place? Heidegger makes a change in the definition of phenomenon: it is that which can show itself. This is a major shift away from Husserl in the use of phenomenology as a method and not “an a priori science of mind as the foundation for scientific philosophy” that Husserl was trying to establish.
    Check out all the embedded links and think about all this and I will return here in a few weeks.
     
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    The above post might be difficult to understand because of the way it is written. I should explain more.

    First, I just want to say, you don’t have to be a really smart person to study phenomenology, just an interested person; don’t let the word frighten you—you’re already half way finished knowing all the phenomenology you really need to know. Wikipedia is really a good source from my experience.

    Secondly, I want to show how a tiny change in the concept of “appearance” by Heidegger from “surface appearance” and adding “misleading appearance” has a profound change in understanding phenomenological analysis and its focus. This is true in all systematic philosophies—tiny adjustments result in large changes on the methodological end.

    The first paragraph [in the first post above starting “Heidegger begins his examination”] is explaining Husserl and a tool called the Epoché (ἐποχή, epokhē ), and is understood as “the act of suspending judgment about the natural world that precedes phenomenological analysis.” Epoche is also called “bracketing” meaning whatever is between these brackets [...] will only be described and the analyst will not get distracted by attempting to explain whether the phenomenon selected for description is “real,” or “imagined. The phenomenological analyst is only interested in describing our conscious experience. And in this same first paragraph I describe another phenomenological tool called Eidetic reduction. This is a fancy term that means the phenomenological analysts strips away (reduces) all the accidental attributes of an phenomena and leaves only the necessary elements which is called, “essences.” We do this all the time when we make dictionary definitions. So epoche and eidetic reduction are analytical tools—for Husserl.

    The second paragraph about “ontic” (objects)[“A particular form of Being--"beings" is “ontic”] and “ontological” (questions of meaning) is an example of Heidegger using Husserl’s tool of Eidetic reduction to distinguish things (beings) and conscious human being.

    This is how eidetic reduction goes: the subject is reduced to an essence which means we are not concerned about any particular accidental characteristic of a individual human being like his age, ethnicity, gender. No, the essence of human being is “being-there” and more particularly “being-in-the-world” as a portal to Being. Remember his quote, “Language is the house of Being,” As with Kierkegaard, Heidegger believes Dasien is the synthesis of the finite and infinite. Wikipedia reads as the following:
    Also, for definition of "ontology:"
    The third paragraph in the first introductory post above has more distinctions Heidegger creates using Husserl’s phenomenological tool of eidetic reduction of semblance (surface appearance), and Erscheinung (sign).

    So why did I just name the thread “Heideggerian Phenomenology?” Comparing and contrasting both Husserl and Heidegger’s use of phenomenology demonstrates how there are differences in interpretation. Also, the contrast allows one to learn two Phenomenologists at the same time. Husserl is clinical and analytical; Heidegger’s use is theological because a very small adjustment to Husserl’s “surface appearance” by adding “misleading appearance” changes the entire project for Heidegger. However, Heidegger rejects the label, “existentialist,” and embraces the label, “Phenomenologist.”

    Thermostellar Device #20 discovered that misinterpretation could have disastrous consequences. Dolittle either intentionally or by accident taught Device #20, pyrrhonism (absolute doubt) instead of Cartesian doubt, which is strictly methodological doubt.

    When Descartes poses a question like “How do you know the world exists?” (Husserl spends a lot of time studying Descartes) Descartes really doesn’t doubt the existence of the world; he just wants to build a hierarchical foundation for all knowledge based on an irrefutable proposition like, “I think; Therefore, I exist.” There would have been no reason to not explode if Device #20 only knew methodological doubt as a tool, or Device #20 would not have doubted his instructions from ship and aborted the sequence. Either way, when Device #20 re-emerged, it had become an authentic solipsistic entity whose purpose is to actualize its full potential.

    So be on the lookout for different interpretations of phenomenology from Husserl, Heidegger, John Paul Sartre...and people like me that favor Heidegger’s interpretation...this is the direction I want to go!
     
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    This is very insightful. Really good. Indeed such summaries help bridge important connections in Heidegger's own work and that of his legacy. In particular for me, the highlighting of the phenomenological legacy in Being and Time is helpful in understanding Heidegger's treatment of truth as a form of disclosure; and, it goes a long way in grounding his idea of "thrownness" as well. Dasein, and all that comes with it [what it means to be in the world, how we relate to things (concern/care), to others (particularly unsettling when one thinks how much of our relatedness and social understanding is defined by an asinine "chattering" that now passes for rational discourse - shadows on the Cave wall indeed - a grotesque perversion of eidos), to ourselves (particularly our own mortality)] is, I think, a fascinating attempt to leave the Cartesian legacy behind by mediating Kant, through Hegel, and adding a splash of Nietzsche (e.g. existential celebration of the creative - a commitment to authenticity). I'm of two minds here, on the one hand Heidegger presents a new Copernican turn that opens up philosophical reflection in a wide variety of interesting ways, and yet his account of authenticity so fundamentally leaves behind the crucial critical element of the German Idealist tradition, that he ends up lost in a moral black hole. Without this normative component, and to his eternal shame, he ends up supporting the indefensibly barbaric (Germany 1933), and yet his own students, most notably Hannah Arendt, Herbert Marcuse, and Hans Jonas would take his insights and produce some of the most extraordinarily ethical and humane philosophy ever written. It really is stunning to see the development of Continental philosophy in Heidegger's wake. For example, throw in Lukacs' theory of reification and it's not hard to see how the Frankfurt School ends up where they did (even if they railed against Heidegger at virtually every opportunity - Marcuse's letter to Heidegger shortly after the war is particularly devastating - in response to Heidegger's complaint that critics judge Nazi Germany from the perspective of the end, not from perspective of the beginning, Marcuse writes: "we knew [in 1933]...that the beginning already contained the end...[now] you stand outside of the dimension in which a conversation between men is even possible - outside of Logos").

    Adorno's work too shows the impact - his suggestion that "The predicament of private life today is shown by its arena. Dwelling in the proper sense, is now impossible." (Minima Moralia, 38) "Wrong life can't be lived rightly." There is an undeniable imprint (and inversion) of Heidegger here. Indeed, Adorno's critique of the culture industry, also has a very interesting phenomenological component along these lines - it inverts the original Kantian schemata to emphasize the social component of the phenomenal - where the internal structuring of consciousness is not the product of a transcendental self, but an externally given product that shapes and structures our perception/conceptualization of reality. The cave wall internalized- the myopia is not just in what one sees (although this is still prevalent), but in how one sees it. Consciousness, the last refuge of freedom for Kant, has now, in late modernity, become mere conformity.
     
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    I understood everything you wrote, and agree!

    Although, I never heard some of those quotes before. But this issue always comes up about Heidegger's behavior during WWII. I believe he stayed at the University for his students. He was under the gun of a particular censor until the Nazi's got tried of Heidegger's ability to maneuver around them. The Nazi declared Heidegger, "The Most Useless Professor" and sent him off digging ditches.
     
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    A Paradigmatic Demonstration of Applying Heidegger’s Dasein Analytic in a Critique of Culture.

    Human consciousness can manifests itself externally as Erscheinung (sign) to show its internal state.

    In the "spirit," as Dostoevsky's "Notes from The Underground", I found this article about Nirvana and Kurt Cobaine's song, "Smells Like Teen Spirit." The German theologian, Hegel, speaks of the Unhappy Consciousness.
    Being has no structure that can be known (Skepticism), and words have no meaning. Cobain can find no words, because there are no words; and yet, his subconscious shouts out what took philosophers centuries to know. Strangely, there is great Truth here. The Unhappy Consciousness seeks Nirvana which is impossible to have because there is no acknowledgment of any correspondence between the Real and the damaged self.( As Leonard Cohen says the Self has been "murdered"--there is no "Self" in the future because the private life is gone. The lost self longs for "Stalin and St. Paul" because in the past there was at least a Self to destroy). This form of consciousness says, "I taste; therefore....nevermind," not the Cartesian Ego, "I think; therefore, I am." Philosophy has nothing to offer. Work is meaningless. Art is the only reprieve. Aphasia is the mind's natural condition.This is the nihilism that Chris Hedges describes in "The Empire of Illusion." There is no "intercourse," or a better term, "mediation," or interaction with the Real. Regardless of the existential situation it finds itself, intelligence still demands coherence and this is done by the unified self ("It makes me smile...") whatever its condition. What does the Christian Theologian have to say?

    Or a more modern Theologian:
    The meaning of the first lyrics in the song? (" ...She's over-bored and self-assured, Oh no, I know a dirty word....").

    Hey! you always got to send a message to your girlfriend especially in a Rock n' Roll song!

    Later, I will explore more of Cobain and Leonard Cohen when speculating on a theory of spiritual experience and sensory domination. There is something in the way keeping us from experiencing the world fully and coherently. We must re-examine our most fundamental assumptions about ourselves and the world, and how beliefs direct our behavior whether we are aware of it, or not. The Dasein Analytic is very helpful doing this kind of re-examine.
     
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    That's great! I like the highlighted text especially.

    What about the Neo-Kantians?

    The Kantian school understands these categories as “absolute,” or the necessary conditions for the possible of experience. The Neo-Kantians hold that these necessary a priori concepts are functionally indistinguishable from a priori "relative" categories. Relative categories are unnecessary for experience, but they change the way perception is organized. Relative categories are not just formal static logical concepts, but are changing historical-anthropological concepts by which cultures are organized. Conceptualizations can become "symbolized" to represent the relationship between concept and the particular in experience. Symbolization connects a perceptual sign with meaning. So uniting a sign and its meaning allows for distinctions in thought that are not found in fact: for example, thinking can distinguish the color and extension of an object, but the separation in not possible in fact. The epistemological distortion of instrumental reason is not only a question of possible false empirical facts, but a false ordering of facts.
     
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    and so....
    The phenomenological Eidetic reduction stripped away all the accidental characteristics of human beings to reveal the essential characteristic of human existence ("existential's" of Dasein) as “being-there” and “being-in-the-world.” This is not psychology, but an eidetic analysis of the internal logical structure of Dasein. A Dasein analytic utilized in the critique of culture reverses the direct of the reduction to describe the relative categories of culture, and then these accidental characteristics begin to reappear.
     
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    ...these accidental characteristics have a actual history and is fertile ground for empirical research.
     
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    For theological phenomenology the “existentials” of Dasein are a “lens” for her analytical toolbox, and “...not a hammer,” of positivistic science.

    Remember in our earlier discussion we witnessed how small changes in interpretation, or analytical distinctions, have large consequences on the out come of analysis? First, we saw this done with Schein, meaning, “semblence,” and “Erscheinung” (Sign), and now with “epoche.”

    Husserl‘s “epoche” now means something like “conversion,” or the “overturning of the soul, ” the poet Leonard Cohen speaks about. The theological phenomenologist are not cheating, rather adjusting her tools for describing the subject. This is a far cry from Husserl’s original pan-mathematical-logico-formalism that characterized his “epoche.”

    The mathematician, Edmund Husserl, would always write a paper on phenomenology after he had written a paper on mathematics, and alternate between the two areas of philosophy.

    The Mystical A Priori.

    "It Seemed The Better Way"
    by
    Leonard Cohen

    "It seemed the better way
    When first I heard him speak
    Now it's much too late
    To turn the other cheek

    Sounded like the truth
    Seemed the better way
    Sounded like the truth
    But it's not the truth today...."
    Is it all True? All this is poetically beautiful, but is it True!?

    We should be able to figure that out. There are only two kinds of propostions: synthetic and analytic propositions.

    A synthectic poposition can either be true, or false like, “The circle is blue.” Synthectic propositions are statements of “fact.”

    On the otherhand, analytic propostions are true by definition such as “circles are round.” If we try to deny a tautology, it then becomes false by definition, “circles are not round” which is a contradiction and is now necessarily false.

    Of course it’s all true!—they are tautologies! And the truth of tautologies is derived from its own circular internal logical necessity.

    You may be surprised that the rule of non-contradiction “A is not non-A” is just a lanuage convention.

    I wonder what Theologian Paul Tillich will have to say about this?
    I was a little let down also when I discovered Logic is itself based on this same logical necessity. I don’t know the answer except “...If all the angels in heaven were to put their heads together, they could still bring to pass only an approximation....”

    All valid deductive arguments are tautologies:

    1.) If A, then B
    2.) A
    ---------------------
    Therefore: B (Modus Ponens, 1,2.).

    Simply add together premises 1, and 2, to form a conjunction.

    Make the conjunction the antecedent to a conditional proposition, and then we have a tautology:

    {[(A>B)*(A)] > B} is a tautology.

    * = and, (conjunction)
    >= If, then, (conditional)

    This works the same with all valid deductive arguments.

    I was a little disappointed that logical necessity is just a language convention. I set aside this problem in theology also because, “...If all the angels in heaven could put there heads together...” Well, you know.

    Tautologies are true...but unfortunately, they are not alway useful, or practical.

    ...on the otherhand, techology is very useful, and practical...but it’s presuppositions are not true. (See, “The Illlusion of Technique,” by Barrett, William, Achor Books/Doubleday, 1979.).

    Then if we are to believe in tautologies, are we then just solipsists?

    ...Solipsism, when it’s all worked out is the same as Realism.
     
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    Within advance industrial society there is both material and spiritual poverty, or in some instances, just poverty of the Spiritual Life. The Spiritual Life can be mutilated, and distorted, but its center holds. Dasein is a synthesis of the finite and the infinite-- the center never divides because that is on the infinite side, but the finite side can be destroyed.

    This form of consciousness is the “Aesthetic Life” The ruling ethical paradigm is psychological egoism that prescribes, “We should try to maximize out own intrinsic good and ignore everyone else’s...”and, “...people invariably do what pleases them by a law of their own nature.” Physical danger and exploitation are seen as enhancements for hedonistic pursuit. Deviousness is a virtue, and only outward appearances matter. The world is universally nihilistic except for love--which is identical to sex. Self-identity only exists in acts of creativity. This form of consciousness--like a mirror--reflects the spiritual condition of its Life World.

    ...but the center holds undivided because she’s “Made by god.”


    "Banana Brain"
    By
    Die Antwoord

    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life
    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life

    Made by God
    Ninji

    Baby girl, you're so fine

    So, so fine, you blow my mind
    Look at you, coochie coo
    Juicy, tushy, gushy, goo
    Boobie one, boobie two
    Bouncing like a Looney Tune
    Booty boomin', cookie juice
    Gushin' out your coochie, boo
    You're so cute, like Pikachu
    Ain't no one so sweet like you
    I whistle then you sneak into
    My lonely heart like peek-a-boo
    Now every time I think of you not by my side I dry my eyes
    I just wanna sing lullabies to my little butterfly

    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life
    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life
    Turn up!
    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life
    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life

    Baby boy, you so cool
    How can I stay mad at you?
    I love you and that's the truth
    You so silly, you so stupid
    You the best
    I never want you to stress
    Everything gonna be cool
    Wait and see
    Just hold my hand and stay with me
    B-B-Baby girl, you been there for me
    Through thick and thin with cool energy
    You cared for me, yeah, defended me
    Helped me defeat my e-e-enemies
    Life's weird it keeps testing me
    No other girl in the world impressing me
    You like Yudu, you voodoo fresh to me
    You just wanna be different
    Get the best of me
    It was meant to be
    You were sent to me
    You and me got wild destiny
    You're like a little angel won't ever pressure me
    E-e-everything you do is so Zef to me
    I love it that you best friends with me
    Just wanna treat your heart carefully
    Cause everyday I feel blessed to be
    The boy chillin' with you right next to me

    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life
    Banana brains, you're the apple of my eye
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life
    Stay with me tonight
    Stay with me tonight
    Stay with me tonight
    Cause I'm having the best time of my life

    I love your energy! (the best time)
    I love it that you're there for me! (the best time)
    Everything is meant to be! (the best time)
    Baby, you were sent to me! (I'm having the best time of my life)
    I love your energy!
    I love it that you're there for me!
    Everything is meant to be!
    Baby, you were sent to me!
    I love your energy!
    I love it that you're there for me!
    Everything is meant to be!
    Baby, you were sent to me!​
     
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    I don't know, but I couldn't resist trying to say that 10 times real fast.

    Didn't turn out well.
     
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    Oh, did I forget to mention that in the phenomenology reduction of the Aesthetic Life, religious symbolism is transubstantiated into gaudy commercialized blingism?
     
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    LoL!!! Now I get it!!!! LOL!
     
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    I am going to take a tiny, tiny break before going forward--not because I don't have more topics to discussion, but rather deciding what I want to leave out.

    Now, Bjork, has a great video called, "Big Time Sensuality." It's really good.

    But I wonder, when will she publish a video entitled, "Big Time Spirituality?" That would really be a good one!

    But then one come back might be, "Maybe they are the same thing."

    Hmmm....
     
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    Earlier, I introduced the Husserlian concept of "Lifeworld," and Heidegger's concept of “being-in-the-world” to describe Dasein’s consciousness. “Lifeworld” is a useful concept when trying to understanding questions of economics, religion, and morality. When a system consumes, or colonizes the lifeworld that society then develops pathologies of nihilism, alienation, and neurosis.

    Edmund Husserl is the first to use this concept, "Lifeworld.” I could paraphrase another author’s description of the Lifeworld, but he has given a particularly good one--A little Husserl, salt, and a dash of Habermas.
    This last part concerning the Lifeworld is very relevant to our situation here at this political discussion board. Here are some details of how Habermas’ Lifeworld varies from Husserl’s: [my emphasis in bold]
     
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    In regard to the Banana Brain critique, I should add the following description of the Aesthetic Life :
    "There is no mystical tea of enlightenment, only chemically induced alternated states of consciousness that is also directed toward hedonistic ends. “GOD” is a brand name."

    ...and then that jewelry thing kind of gets me...that in the phenomenological reduction of the Aesthetic Life, religious symbolism is transubstantiated into gaudy commercialized blingism. Or to say it another way: de-sacralization.
     
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    And like I said...It works! It works! It works!
     
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    Index of # Posts and Topic:
    - 1, Introduction to Phenomenology
    - 2, Phenomenological Tools
    - 5, Dasein Analytic and Critique of Culture
    - 7, 8 Neo-Kantians and Eidetic Analysis
    - 9, Mystic A priori
    - 10, 11, 12, Phenomenological Reduction of the Aesthetic Life
    - 15, 16, 17, The Lifeworld


    More About Phenomenological Conceptual Tools, Methodologies, and Meta-Theology.

    Dr. Shields has asked [My paraphrasing] “Where does theological phenomenology stand on the important question of what is the ontological foundation of logical necessity?”
    Wittgenstein would qualify as a non-essentialist by not believing truth had an actual objective reality existing along side Plato’s Essences. It means we brush up on our Wittgenstein and Kierkegaard!

    Just as a side note: Margarete Wittgenstein and her relation with Ludwig Wittgenstein, her brother:
    There are two kinds of logicians: no! I don’t mean bad logicians, and good logicians, nor do I mean male and female logicians—I mean “essentialist” and “non-essentialist” logicians. The two groups are also known as “idealist essentialism” and “non-essential nominal realism.”
    The essentialist logicians believe that the essential “laws” of logic and mathematics are eternal, and objectivity exists in some kind of heaven with Plato’s Forms. Most mathematicians are essentialist including philosophers like Edmund Husserl, and Bertrand Russell who actually believed in essentialism. Wittgenstein is a nominalist.

    However, “essence” can have many different meanings.
    The ontological status of logical necessity is a serious issue that must be resolved, otherwise one could be caught is big contradictions later on down the road. The essentialist logico-mathematical philosopher must defend his position not unlike in the theism vs. anti-theism debate. Wittgenstein--a nominalist--would be by analogy on the “atheist” side of this essentialist debate.

    There is another difference between idealist essentialism and the non-essentialist nominalist: when an essentialist formulates a new mathematical law she views it as a “discovery” in mathematics just as in the positivistic empirical sciences. On the other hand, a nominalist would understand a new formula as a conceptual “invention” that has no independent objective reality from ourselves.

    I really like the rule of non-contradiction—“A is not, non-A,” and its necessity must ontologically stand on something! But Wittgenstein says, “Give it up!” it’s just a convention of language. So this is why I am with Wittgenstein, a nominalist, but I am not an “atheist” so to speak. I am more analogous to the “a-gnostic” (“a,” Alpha privative, meaning “none” and “gnosis” meaning, “knowledge”) about this question of logical necessity. Don’t be afraid to change your mind on this issue, however.

    “The phenomenological essence is always in relation to human experience, it has no reality outside of the experience of the experiencer.” (J.M Shields). I can still remain a theological phenomenologist without any nasty contradictions. A nominalist only admits the very least--with the least risk.

    In regard to that phenomenological tool called the “Epoche,” or the “bracketing” of questions about existents: we may have been too hard on Husserl by saying he had too ridged of a definition of the epoche. Husserl and religious phenomenologists’s view of the epoche may have been closer than first thought.
    The theological phenomenological project of critically seeing the world still remains intact regardless of the essentialist and non-essentialist debate.
    Theological phenomenology needs good descriptive authors with knowledge of philosophy to write critiques of culture, economics, and religion.

    And then we can step “back to watch the forms of transcendence fly up like sparks from a fire.”

    *Footnote: Anyone that could read J.M. Shields’ article on Religious Phenomenology and understand 90% of it, I would consider that person an expert on phenomenology. So with what I have written so far, you should be able to understand Shield’s article fairly easily.
     
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    Björk - National Theatre, Reykjavík (full concert - pro-shot) (1999)
    I commented earlier that Bjork should do a video song entitled "Big Time Spirituality." Actually, she already has with her many other songs--they are primarily about spirituality. In the Reykjanik Consert she sings and dances to a collection of her songs. You must see it! Her performance has a mystical feel.
     
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    The Reykjavík concert is beautiful! And Bjork is cute as a bug!

    Sorry, I'm just going to read and play today. This song is about human irrationality as a structure of its being. There is ambiguity in finite existence which causes anxiety. Hear at mark 48:48 minutes (Human Behaviour) in the Reykjavík concert.

    "Human Behaviour"
    by Bjork

    If you ever get close to a human
    And human behavior
    Be ready, be ready to get confused
    And me and my hereafter
    There's definitely, definitely, definitely no logic
    To human behavior
    But yet so, yet so irresistible
    And me and my fear can
    And there's no map uncertain
    They're terribly, terribly, terribly moody of human behavior
    Then all of a sudden, turn happy and they and my here after
    But, oh, to get involved in the exchange of human emotions
    Is ever so ever so satisfying and they and my here, oh
    And there's no map uncertain
    Human behavior, human behavior
    Human behavior, human behavior
    And there's no map
    And a compass wouldn't help at all
    Yeah, uncertain
    Human behavior, human behavior
    Human behavior, human behavior
    Human behavior, human behavior
    Human behavior
    There's definitely, definitely, definitely no logic
    To human, to human, to human, to human​
     
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