What is the bottom line why Socialism is really being pushed around the globe?

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  1. james M

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    it is racist. why??
     
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    actually Medicare Medcaid, VA Schip TRIcare, IMS, Community Clinics, intra state competition are far from Republican capitalism. Liberals lack the IQ to understand Republican capitalism so we don't have it, and pay 5 times what we would under capitalism.. Do you understand?
     
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    Its a bait n switch for feudalism. The ancient 'royal' lineages want their power back, but they can't take it. We have to 'give' it to them. By sacrificing our individual sovereignty to the collective which they will 'administer'. Over time, the 'administration' becomes more and more powerful until it eventually becomes ALL powerful and we're all slaves to a king.
     
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    Exactly.

    EACH of these programs came into existence because capitalism failed to deliver health care to enough of our population. Plus, you missed that we fund ERs so that those totally left out can at least get rudimentary care if they can manage getting to a hospital with an ER.

    Take a look at how the per capita cost of healthcare in America compares to that of other industrialized nations.

    Take a look at how our healthcare distribution compares between America and other industrialized nations.

    Even with these various attempts to ensure our citizens get health care we STILL have millions who are not covered and thus can not afford the cost of our capitalist system.
     
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    You do not have a right to health care. You have an opportunity to acquire it, if you can afford it, but no right to if.
     
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    ever heard of East/West Germany , Cuba/ Florida that proves capitalism is a huge success??
     
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    It did not fail for that reason. Here are some reasons it has failed, and you will not like them.
    Drug addicts
    alcoholics
    Mothers with 4 children all by different daddies
    laziness
    poor education (this is your decision)
    High credit card debt
    buying cigarettes instead of gold or silver
    Poor health habits
    Giving it away to illegal aliens

    Need I go on? You get the picture. Our own fault for feeling sorry for someone who intentionally put their hand on a hot stove, or an orphan who killed his parents.
     
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    yes this proves our socialism is worse than their socialism. Do you understand?
     
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    of course socialism is so bad that in USSR and Red China no one could afford anything and 120 million slowly starved to death. Now do you understand?
     
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    because... because... You have no idea why you feel the way you do, so I'll attempt to provide a brief education on the basic idea.

    You say it's racism, but is it racist to say that blacks have black skin? Of course not. Realizing that there are physical differences between the races doesn't mean racism. IQ is simply Darwin's way of dealing with different environments, and when you have to prepare for a long cold winter, you need the intelligence to do so or you die. That's not racism, but rather a reality.

    See, you just assume that physical differences between the races are inherently racist, but that in itself is racist because you assume that high intelligence is superior to low intelligence. You're like an elephant wandering around the zoo thinking you're so superior to giraffes because your nose is longer than their noses are. The giraffes on the other hand probably think they're superior to elephants because they clearly have much longer necks than those no-neck peanut munchers. The reality is that both evolved to take advantage of different aspects of the environment, resulting in superiority to extinct species.

    If you really want to be racist, you can try evolving into a cockroach. Those little guys will be around long after we're gone.
     
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    Like food, health care is a basic requirement.

    Putting it in the same category as a slightly larger TV or whatever is considered preposterous by all industrialized nations in the world - including our own.
     
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    That's been addressed.

    I don't even SLIGHTLY agree. Florida is the USA. Cuba is a tiny island nation that has been under economic, and even military attack by the USA for a long, long time.

    To suggest that the reason the US has a more powerful economy is because Cuba has too much socialism is just plain STUPID.

    And, using Germany as an example is just as bad.

    In every case you have proposed there have been gigantic reasons for differential economic success far beyond the degree of socialism that may (or may not) have been implemented.
     
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    so as a typical liberal you look at East/West Germany and say lets copy communist East Germany? Do you look at North South Korea and say lets copy North Korea?
     
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    You don't need to go on - you need to START.

    I'm not sure what you are even trying to suggest here. Perhaps you are suggesting that the USA is worse in all these categories than ALL other industrialized nations.

    But, you've given zero evidence of that.

    And, I don't believe Americans suck that badly.
     
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    so Red Chinese socialism slowly starved 60 million to death, they switched to capitalism and everyone started getting rich and you would argue they should switch back to socialism?....so another 60 million will starve to death?
     
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    Our primary system is VERY MUCH NOT socialism.

    And, every social support that has been added has been added because the more purely capitalist solution was FAILING.

    Do you understand?
     
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    You need to learn to formulate an argument.
     
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    so is Taiwan!!! and they did far far better than Red China. Do you know why?
     
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    how is they ever conceivable given that there is massive govt intervention everywhere???????????
     
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    Red China switched to capitalism from socialism and instantly eliminated 40% of the entire planet's poverty after starving 60 million to death under socialism. Therefore, capitalism is infinitely better than socialism. Do you understand now?
     
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    that's what Stalin thought too as he kept adding more and more socialism as more and more millions died under socialism.
     
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    They really don't believe in communism or socialism, they believe in leachism. You know, like a 24 year old child living in mommies basement. They want to live off of everyone elses productivity.
    And with that, they soon have no resistance to government force.
     
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    No, I look at East/West Germany and see multiple differences.

    While you, as a (hopefully) rare righty look at it and claim there is only one difference.

    Can you imagine how dedicated Russia was to make East Germany a raving success story after having sustained 20,000,000 deaths in WWII?
     
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    certainly much of it is self destructive and cripppling leaching but some of it is their handlers interest in exploiting the masses to acquire their votes and then political power.
     
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    There are several reasons why.
     

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