What is the foundation of the Conservative Movement?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes!!!!!!!

    I personally could not care less whether or not Bill Gates ends up with a trillion dollars in assets before he passes on to the higher dimensions of space time……. and I hope that his heirs can inherit over 90% of that………. dollars are a unit of measurement…. generally of effort x time…….. so….. higher and higher levels of savings would tend to back up research and development in a world where human beings made at least some effort to be considerably more ethical than Dr. Devorit Samid and Dr. David Kessler, (pardon my spelling), were in the Burzynski film series.

    http://burzynskimovie.com

    Actually……. it is possible in theory for a consortium of New Age Communities to combine their efforts….. buy Monsanto for a multi trillion dollar offer if necessary…..and then do a bunch of films where the really highly unethical people in Monsanto….. become reality film actors of the villain variety?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...urrencies-finance-films-address-problems.html
    New Age Communities can print local currencies finance films that address problems?!
    At this time I tend to believe that New Age Groups may be the most likely to successfully initiate local currencies and use them to finance film projects in which homeless people could become actors playing the role of homeless people.... .which could easily finance their buying or renting homes????!!!!

    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717
     
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    I personally view Bill Gates as my great, great, great, great….. grandson from one or more of my probable past lives……. (assuming the validity of the Dr. Ian Stevenson research)….. so this is one of the reasons why I see no need for Bill and Melinda to be taxed heavily in order to make it possible for me to sit back and take it easy!


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html
    Dr. Ian Stevenson's Reincarnation Research

    ….
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well….. if the being of light guy who reviews lives with people who have a brush with death is none other than the Word/ Logos… Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in his glorified form……then lots of groups of people would be disappointed with some of what he has been saying to NDErs.

    "For my angel is with you and I myself will demand an account of your souls." (Baruch 6:6, Catholic Bible)

    …….

    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah…….. this fourth dimensional space - time continuum has serious advantages even over heaven itself………. in my opinion anyway?!

    In a way…. the forgetfulness that being human gives us is easier than carrying the weight of having an off the scale deep concern for every human being not to mention all those animals and sparrows?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...most-emotional-being-universe-multiverse.html
    Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?

    Which type of project will you tend to get more involved in?

    A job that you invested fifty hours of your time in, over one month or a labour of love where you exerted a great deal of effort for 50,000 hours over forty years?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05
     
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    Well said!

    Several years ago I read "My Descent Into Death" by former atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm.

    Howard asked those beings of light some really challenging questions and got some extremely thought provoking answers.

    http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

     
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    There are times that demand a reexamination of our values; and, more fundamentally, what we stand for as Americans. Do we stand for freedom and equality? Freedom and equality are ideals; but, absent a perfect world, no one can live in society and be entirely free or completely equal. For every freedom there is a corresponding obligation to others, and equality is limited to the extent that such obligations are mutual, and others do not demand rights without responsibility for their exercise. In this, the promise of America is not freedom and equality, but rather liberty and equal opportunity and justice under law. However, such promise cannot be kept when government instituted by men favors the few in derogation of the many, or serves the special interests at the expense of the public interest, and when the rich and powerful can have more justice than the poor and oppressed.

    America is a nation of laws and not men. But the law can be both used and abused by men; and so it is the duty and responsibility of every citizen to oversee those who make and enforce the laws and administer justice lest our democratic institutions be turned into a tyranny over us.
     
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    For the uninitiate, when leftist operatives say things like this, they tacitly exempt themselves. The only things they ever reexamine are political strategies and tactics.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...… it is excellent how we more conservative types are so much better at admitting when we are significantly in error?!
     
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    What you mean, "we", Kemosabe?

    No, what's so much better about conservatives is that, generally speaking, their foundational premises are not intellectually and morally bankrupt to begin with, so there is relatively little error that needs admitting.

    You're welcome. :)
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Although I am a member of Canada's Liberal Party......… the fact that I do not support a carbon tax......… but instead promote investment in turning deserts green.......... up here I am thought of as "Conservative" by other members of the Liberal Party. Also.... the Liberal Party of Canada is not one hundred percent in line with what is termed "Liberalism" in the USA!

    My posts on the official Liberal Party forum receive huge numbers of "Unlikes."

    Just take a look at my 2008 primary writing in my campaign for municipal office and see if you can't see why so many Canadians think of me as "right wing?"


    www.BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/



    ......There are three primary threats to the quality of life for all of us who live here. High unemployment will probably force most of our young people to move far away to find jobs. Because of government cut backs St. Mary's Educational Centre may be closed as early as 2011. In the near future record high tides may devastate our roads and homes that are only a few feet above sea level. We are being told that there is little that you and I can do about any of these problems but this is simply not true.

    Satellite pictures show rapid melting of Arctic ice but only about ten percent is above water level. Ice occupies more space than liquid water so until now we have experienced rather little ocean level rise. Our situation will be entirely different if and when melting occurs in the massive ice pack on Greenland and Antarctica that sit on land.

    I am in agreement with environmentalist and economist Bjorn Lomborg that a carbon shift policy will probably be ineffective over the short term in combating global temperature increases or in preventing a destructive rise in world ocean levels.

    Two effective methods to combat global warming and simultaneously fight rising ocean levels have been proposed by New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.

    Another promising method to green the deserts is to use hydrogen fuel cell technology to power vehicles in the hottest and driest regions of the earth. Imagine millions of vehicles across the Sahara, the Middle East, near the US Mojave desert and in the outback of Australia all spewing harmless water vapor as exhaust! Rest assured humidity and rainfall will increase in those areas and vegetation will grow.

    Last week I wrote a lengthy e-mail to Green Party Leader Elizabeth May. "Ms. May, if you owned a large apartment building and your tenants complained that the rooms were too warm would you listen to the advice of the contractor who was telling you to rip all the insulation out of the walls of this structure?"

    "I don't think that you would because your article indicates that you have a phenomenal intellect and listening to this probably self-interested contractor would be incredibly unwise!"

    "Combating global warming by first getting rid of CO2 is comparable to tearing the insulation out of this hypothetical building. CO2 is not a pollutant. Plants love this compound and some people even seem to feel that the recent greening in some parts of the Sahara Desert is partly attributable to increased levels of CO2. I tend to strongly agree with them in this assertion."

    "Several days ago Mr. Charles Moore informed me that Canada produces roughly only 2.5 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Our nation could invest billions of dollars into reducing our carbon footprint and yet all this would have essentially zero effect on the global environment if China and India did not take similar measures.... besides....CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT... PLANTS LIVE ON IT AND RISING WORLD OCEAN LEVELS ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY THE GREATEST MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT POSED BY GLOBAL WARMING TO EVERY COASTAL COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!! (E-mail, September 11, 2008)

    Ms. May deserves credit for encouraging Canadian political leaders to take environmental issues more seriously but at this time I feel that she has far too much confidence in the proposals put forward at Kyoto. The skepticism that Prime Minister Harper had for this accord seems to have been based on sound reasoning. Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was wise to hope for more time to further study this complex subject before an election.

    You would be astonished how many of our political leaders do not understand the tremendous benefits of historical Canadian monetary policy.
     
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    Also......… anybody who wants to term themselves "Conservative" should have the intellectual courage to address the NUMBER ONE cause of inflation in the economies of Canada and the USA that also happens to be the NUMBER ONE cause of government devicits!!!!!!

    ...…
    BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/
    ...continued...…


    ......You would be astonished how many of our political leaders do not understand the tremendous benefits of historical Canadian monetary policy.

    http://www.michaeljournal.org/appenB.htm

    We can encourage our federal and provincial level officials to re-enact wise monetary policy such as Prime Minister Mackenzie King did in 1940 by organizing a local film production cooperatives or company. Due to our proximity to the ocean we should all be highly motivated to produce films and effectively use the media to educate individuals and politicians all across Canada through YouTube.com. Time is limited if we hope to stimulate our economy, save our elementary school and prevent the loss of our roads and homes to the threat of rising ocean levels.

    We have been told that we are almost helpless before these massive problems but what did the author of Genesis say about human capability for either evil or good if we unite on a common goal:

    Can we visualize extensively using hydrogen fuel cell cars in California, Nevada, New Mexico, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Australia and Kuwait?
    "And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water." (Isaiah 35)

    Please also take a look at my campaign writings from 2004 and 2006:
    www.bankingsystemflaws.blogspot.com/

    If you elect me as your Municipal Councillor on October 18 I will try my best to promote effective solutions to our greatest problems to all who will listen.

    Thank you for your considering of this information and for your support.

    Kind regards.

    Dennis Tate
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So true!

    The people who claim to love him the most at this time……….. would be furious if he told them that climate change was not mainly a socialist conspiracy to take away their eight cylinder engines?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-geoff-lawton-permaculture-tipping-point.html
    Geoff Lawton: Permaculture & The Tipping Point
    Over the past several years I have watched several absolutely fascinating films by this man.

    He is clearly attempting to improve our lives………… and save the lives of our children and grandchildren.

    I have got to find his film about how simply getting farms to NOT burn the stocks from the previous year's crop….. but instead use them as a mulch that holds in water…… can profoundly alter how we view the possibility of turning deserts green.


    Geoff Lawton: Permaculture & The Tipping Point
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1la9ik-MscM
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brilliantly stated!

    I got a rather controversial topic going over here that you may enjoy:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rals-more-intelligent-than-conservatives.html

    Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives
    I am a Canadian who terms himself a "Blue Liberal" which means that I consider myself politically rather moderate with some leanings toward "Conservatism" as well as some tendencies toward "Liberalism."

    I actually joined Canada's Liberal Party after taking a good look at the NDP and Green Party and deciding that they were too angry……… despised P. M. Stephen Harper with a level of hatred that seemed somewhat irrational…… so I joined the Liberal Party not too many months after Mr. Stephan Dion proved that his party took climate change very seriously!


    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...y-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
    Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives


    And…. I quoted you here Nemo:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=411934&page=26&p=1065095050#post1065095050
     
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    We have an excellent example in the NT of how God would want man to act. It happens in Acts, when a great crowd of diverse people were awaiting the Pentacost. In that crowd were very rich people, poor people, widows with orphans and so on, a mixture as one would see today in any crowd.

    So what did God inspire the rich to do? Well, to sell what they owned, and then take that money and give to the apostles to distribute to those in need, according to their needs. There was even one rich married couple that did just that, but instead of doing as God wanted, they were greedy and held some of it back, so that they could remain rich, perhaps. We are told in Acts that first God struck down the man dead, and then his wife.

    Of course you will never hear these passages preached about in church, as you will seldom hear a preaching on the Sermon on the Mount.

    So, if God had his way with man, we would have something similar to socialism, where there were no rich, and all would share equally in the resources of this earth that God obviously gave to all of humanity, and not to just a few who would hoard such resources, while others went hungry.

    Modern conservatism is based upon the selfishness promoted by Ayn Rand, an atheist. There is no such thing as a conservative Christian. It is an oxymoron. We do see a conservative in the NT. His name was Judas, who loved mammon more than he loved Christ. And the conservatives do that, even until this very day.
     
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    Truly well said....... I generally agree.........… if we Christians understood the hidden teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus we would be far far far far more active in assisting the poor ......… and ..... we would also tend to support government policies that assist them as well.

    But........ I am still wondering if government is the group that could do the most efficient and effective job of assisting the poor??????!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ations-should-print-their-own-currencies.html

    Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.
     
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    Conservatives are liberal.... The difference is that conservatives believe it's the individuals responsiblity to give and to care for the needy - not the government - which is why conservatives give so much to charity and why so called 'liberals' give little.

    Charity work is useles if one is forced to give... Jesus gave via his own free will - the government didn't take his fish and redistribute his fish to who the government thought deserved his fish - no - Jesus gave the fish to who HE thought deserved his fish...
     
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    Yes...… volunteerism by people who attend churches on a regular basis is an important part of the full fledged social safety net.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ations-should-print-their-own-currencies.html

    Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.



    www.CalgaryDollars.ca/
    is a good example of how several dozen socially active residents of an area can begin what amounts to a second tier to the economy.

    The Ithaca Hour is an excellent example of a similar concept being applied in the United States.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_Hours




    Most North American churches have a desire to assist the poor and the oppressed. Well….. in 2014 efforts by a group of socially active Christians could easily transform dozens of homeless people into actors….. who are playing the role of homeless people….. and the specific efforts to help them could becomes scenes in a series of documentary and reality films designed to give the homeless people a job that finances their getting an apartment or at least a group home.

    Most of us are unaware of the Worgl, Austria local currency experiment that was conducted during the Great Depression and how successfully it was copied in hundreds of communities in the USA. As a matter of fact…… it looks like what these communities accomplished played a significant role in inspiring the USA government to alter the monetary system in many positive ways.


    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717





     
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    So do you think that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus if he were here would disagree with how near death experiencer Christian Andreason explains what he was shown about this issue?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a11

    Now I could easily be wrong..... but this sure reminds me of the flavour of the Sermon on the Mount?!
     
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    Yes..... he would.... but The Donald for all his flaws could also have a transformative effect on "Conservatism."

    .................
    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...donald-trump-can-great-president-because.html

    Donald Trump can be a GREAT President because.......



    … of his deep level of empathy with the greatest forces that are keeping the average American down!

    I saw two documentaries about The Donald yesterday evening. When I saw the part about how he purchased the Taj Mahal through financing arranged by about twenty different banks. When I heard that he had agreed to pay them a high rate of interest. I knew that The Donald had been guided by G-d to have a deep empathy for the situation faced by President Abraham Lincoln.
     

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