What is the purpose of unsolicited ballots being distributed?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Voting by mail twice, or voting once in person and once by mail?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Oh sure, but is EVERY state which is sending out ballots to all voters a state which does mail-in voting only?
     
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    HAHA! Fair enough! Well thank you for your participation in it. By the way, I'm not a Trump supporter!
     
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    No, I'm not saying that. Aren't you saying that every registered voter receiving a ballot increases voter turnout, and therefore this is why Republicans don't like this form of mail-in voting?
     
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    Conspiracy theory...
     
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    Either way. Or maybe vote three times although that is far more problematic.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Well assuming that the system works as it is supposed to, wouldn't it detect two votes for the one person?
     
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    Repubs continue to do what they can to make it more difficult to vote all across the country. Including those on the SC.

    Voting rights advocates sue to block Texas governor’s order limiting counties to one ballot drop-off location

    "Voting rights advocates have filed suit against Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, contending that his new order limiting mail-ballot drop-off locations to one per county burdens voters and “undermines the public’s confidence in the election itself.”

    The complaint, filed late Thursday in federal court, seeks to block enforcement of an order Abbott (R) issued Thursday and to allow counties to offer multiple ballot drop-off locations ahead of a projected rise in mail voting during the general election."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...91c104-04b7-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html

    Supreme Court to hear Arizona voting rights case next year

    "The Supreme Court on Friday added a major voting rights case to its docket and will review whether Arizona laws common in other states discriminate against racial minorities.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit found that Arizona’s restrictions hurt minority voters in violation of the Voting Rights Act, although it allowed them to remain in place for the November election while litigation continued. The high court’s new term begins Monday.

    Democrats had asked the Supreme Court to stay out of the fight and let the 9th Circuit’s decision stand, and fear that a contrary decision could result in a further weakening of the VRA’s protections by the increasingly conservative court. A 2013 decision by the court in Shelby County v. Holder declared unconstitutional a central component of the law."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...62d428-04b7-11eb-a2db-417cddf4816a_story.html
     
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    I don't believe so, but that is the method for mail only states.
     
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    "The increase is expected despite state GOP officials’ success in maintaining strict eligibility limits on mail voting during the coronavirus pandemic. The state is one of only five that is prohibiting voters fearful of exposure to the virus from casting mail ballots this fall."

    IN, TX, TN, LA, and MS are preventing voters who want to vote by mail because of fear of COVID from doing so.

    (TNS) — Now that Hurricane Laura has passed, Louisiana politicos are returning to the issue of what role mail-in balloting will play in the Nov. 3 presidential election.

    With Republicans wanting to limit absentee balloting by mail and Democrats wanting to expand it, the issue has been dumped into federal court.
    https://www.governing.com/now/Louisiana-Elevates-Mail-In-Ballot-Issue-to-Federal-Court.html

    Why do Repubs hate it when more people vote.

    "As of May 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 40% as Independent."
     
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    Yes. However assuming the system works as it is supposed to is a big assumption. As I have said, this is a major concern with the rush for universal mail-in balloting. A system never works as its theoretical design, triply so if the system is rushed into place.
     
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    What system has been rushed in to place?

    Ballot drop boxes are safe, secure and have been used by Republicans and Democrats for decades — so why is Trump bashing them?

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...cades-so-why-is-trump-bashing-them-2020-08-24
     
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    Perhaps you are a victim of Trump's relentless misinformation campaign.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mation-conversation”-began-with-trump.579293/
     
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    The only thing wrong with the system isn't a predisposition for error or fraud; it's whether a state is prepared for high volume. Look at it like Kroger. When Kroger gets busy, they bring more help to front, and it takes you longer to get through the line. That's about it. They don't allow people to walk out without paying for groceries.

    Ballots will take time to count. We simply have to accept that.
     
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    Your comment explains exactly why Repubs have sought to withhold extra funding so states have added capacity to handle more mail in ballots in an efficient manner. They want there to be problems.
     
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    Exactly. If Trump wants the results quickly, the Republicans need to pony up the cash. That they haven't suggests interference. We're just gonna have to wait.
     
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    Sigh ... I don't understand why so many just don't get it. It's really, really simple.

    -There's a deadly disease making the rounds.
    -People are trying to stay safe from this disease.
    -One way to stay safe is to avoid crowds.
    -In some places, polls on election day are crowded.
    -In order to help us stay safe, many states are allowing
    everyone to vote from the safety of their homes.
    -Each state is handling this differently.
    -Some states still allow you to go to the polls,
    but also allow you to request a mail-in ballot.
    -Some states are keeping polls closed and are
    mailing ballots to all registered voters.
    -Some states have been vote-by-mail only for years,
    with virtually no fraud attempts.

    Trump wants us to be afraid, he wants the process to be confusing and chaotic. He wants everyone who doesn't support him to be so disgusted by the process that they opt to just stay home and not vote at all. That's the only way he can win.

    If your state has decided on mail-in ballots only, the only way to do that is to send ballots to all registered voters. They assume you want to vote, therefore the ballot is not unsolicited.
     
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    All of what you say here, you're obviously applying to states specifically responding to COVID by sending out ballots to all registered voters and all of what you say can be achieved by people requesting a ballot.
     
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    - If you can go to the grocery store, you can go vote.
    - Every state allows absentee balloting. Every. Single. One. Trump encourages people to vote with an absentee ballot, just like he did.
    ^^^
    Addresses every part of your post.
     
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    Doesn't absentee balloting include voting early ONLY in person?
     
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    Absentee voting and early voting are different hings.
    Starting Monday, I can go in person to my county election board and early vote.
    I could also get an absentee ballot and fill it out at home.
     
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    Isn't absentee balloting a FORM of early vote?
     
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    i suppose - but the term "early voting" is generally assumed to be voting in person.
     
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    As far as I know, there are four states which didn't previously do mail only elections.
     
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