What Is Your Opinion On The Occupy Wallstreet Protests And Would You Join Us? Act II

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    No...I'm not. I'm simply pointing out the child-like hypocrisy of the right. The "shifting of blame" from the "personal responsibility" crowd.
     
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    the occupy movement? bah, bloody communists, feminists, anarchists, socialists, lefties, democrats, and what not. They represeant all that I don't agree with on the left. and the naïvity, idealism, and failure to understand reality. If I was american and knew some one who had anything to do with that hobo gathering i'd be ashamed.
     
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    The OWS Ex-Lax Smooth movement has failed again.
     
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    If you want to kill the movement you should applaud its accomplishments, give its people a sense of closure and then belittle their legitimacy.

    Your disparaging of their great cause serves only to encourage them to do more.

    Have you considered why it wouldn't be so bad if you SUPPORTED your people? You should not have alterior motives but truly support them in their movement for social change.

    Suppression and oppression of the people is not the best for anybody. These are real American people, unlike the corporate entities who the US Government has made clear have first-person status with significant speech-money powers! The US Government is in breach of the constitutional contract, declaring a ruling class over the natural people with superior personhood, representation and speech powers! It is exactly what the founders didn't want and why they rebelled from Britain in the first place!
     
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    The OWS is a bunch of pathetic hippies. Surprised they aren't Libertarians. Man up, get educated, and stop setting up tents on streets doing absolutely nothing.
     
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    The OWS Movement is a prime example of how to not conduct a large-scale non-violent resistance effort.
     
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    The initial stages of everything is often a little rough starting out. Give it a little time and ...VIOLA!! (wishful thinking but....just sayin').
     
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    Addendum: I am a huge proponent of mobilizing civil society through non-violent resistance, but there are right ways and wrong ways of doing so. Of course, none of these approaches are static, but are highly dynamic and circumstantial. Nevertheless, there are some basic elements that a non-violent resistance movement must exhibit.

    One, there must be a leadership apparatus. OWS did not have any. Some may say this is due to their commitment to participatory democratic organization, but there can be participatory democratic structure and a strong leadership structure. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    Two, adherence to non-violent resistance must be ubiquitous. Many OWS protests ended up with protesters attacking police officers, destroying property, and being a nuisance to the broader public. While some of these actions may have been the result of law enforcement brutality, all it takes is one protester to go after, say, an NYPD officer, for a non-violent resistance movement to falter.

    Third, and finally, a strong collective identity must be present. This flaw was not only present in the OWS Movement, but in Egypt's April 6th Movement. Both groups, unfortunately, failed to ensure that protesters were united under common goals, principles, and messages. In turn, fracturing began to occur, weakening the organization of the protest movements. In Egypt, this was particularly disastrous, with a political vacuum opening where established organizations such as Muslim Brotherhood could capitalize. The same cannot be said for OWS, but loss of face certainly came to fruition.
     
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    "The rich are ruining our country because they could pay all of our bills but choose not to."

    I can't remember saying this to anyone, ever, but if you actually believe what you say then you are f***ing hopeless and not worth my time. You and people like you are why I I laugh at occupy wall street.
     
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    He who laughs last, laughs best?

    I'm holdin' out for one more laugh.
     
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    It's absent minded rationale. The rich could pay more but choose not to and so are ruining America. Wtf is that?
     
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    Well, when there's nothing left in the banks, and the bank robbers are the only ones doing well...then..catch my drift?
     
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    Guess comprehension is selective.
     
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    Just as with the phony Vietnam War protesters, these are upper-class trash from the 2 to 10%. Brought up in smug snobbery, the Occupuppies were sure that they would join the ruling class in screwing over the despised majority. But with the final collapse of a country run on birth and not worth, they are outraged that they too might get the shaft from the 1%.

    It is important to know what their predecessors, the Vietnam-era pampered rabble, were really like. They were upper-class brats who weren't really protesting the war, but practicing their class hatred of the working-class youth who got drafted to die in it. Their real message was, "Our Daddies always told us that working class people are stupid, lazy, and greedy. Our Daddies will love us even more when we tell our media that the sons of the working-class are also baby-killers."

    The Baby Boom Generation grew up on movies glorifying war. But with their acute class-consciousness, the upper-class brats saw these movies as showing off heroes from the hated working class. They were determined to not let that happen with their generation. The Occupuppies are of the same ilk, which is not to say that Wall Street is anything but a den of thieves. Just don't give them credit for saying that; they'd be Streetwalkers too if the economy run by the likes of them hadn't crashed. These conceited frauds must be ignored and insulted and put in their place. If we have to start from the bottom, so must they.
     

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