What is your take away from the 2020 election?

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't have to prove anything to you. You just proved to me that God gave you the ability to reject Him. No need to discuss further.
     
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    Correct. I don't want you to prove anything to me.
    I proved to you I am not hardwired like you. So, that proves we are not hardwired. And certainly, not hardwired to think the same.
     
  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is how we should settle our dispute....[​IMG]
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Empowered. Sure.

    All of the Abrahamic religions, every sect and denomination and cult within within Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, make the same claims:

    My faith is the one true faith.
    My church is the one true church.
    My god is the one true god.

    They can't all be right, therefore, applying the scientific principle of Occam's Razor, that the simplest answer tends to be the correct one, they are all wrong.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Odd. I can't seem to find the right phrase to get google to produce that information. There doesn't seem to be a list or table anywhere that shows the total number of EC votes through history. Maybe you'll have better luck?
     
  6. Curious Always

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College
     
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    Again, link to proof? Where do you get the notion that urbanites want more government control that rural dweller? Your map is a complete waste of time and proves nothimg more than the fact that cities tend to vote blue. That doesn't mean they are socialists or communists or that they favor a nanny state. Your map fails to prove ypur claims about city dwellers.

    Care to try again? Or can you man up, and concede that you're just spouting your personal opinions about city vs rural voters, opinions based on hate rather than actual knowledge?
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Both want control over our lives. The better question is what does each party want to control?

    The Patriot Act; the largest power grab by the fed, had wild support from both sides. They laughed like schoolgirls when they got the power to spy on us.
     
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    I lived in the Silicon Valley area when The Patriot Act was voted into law. The rep at the time, Mike Honda, was one of the few who voted No.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Search for
    Chronological table
     
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    1961 when DC was awarded 3 electoral votes by the 23rd amendment.
     
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    The country is no closer to unification than it was on Nov 2. There is still as much talk about Trump as there was before the election. So my take away is that Trump, POTUS in 2021 or not, seems to be teflon.
     
  14. Sleep Monster

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    Thank you.

    Such an interesting table. 538 has been the total since 1960, but some states gained EC votes since then and some lost a few. You can see how people left some states and relocated to others over the years. It's almost like looking at a migration pattern.
     
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    Yup! It's a fair process, IMO.

    Look at percentages, not people. 10% of the vote for 11% of the citizens is about as close as you can get to fair, in a fixed number system.

    The new districting has to be done by 2022, I think. Don't quote me on that.
     
  16. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is one that is MORE right and it is not your belief in yourself.
     
  17. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't need to try again. The proof is in your own statement. Democrats love more regulation, higher taxes and government intrusion. The promise more free gifts and security. Everyone knows that and a very large segment lives in population densities as the map shows.

    No hate here. That is a typical leftist tactic to ascribe the opposition as "hate" in an attempt to diminish it, Bolcheviques don't rule here.
     
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    As if republicans don't want control. Which republicans voted against the Patriot Act, again?
     
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    Non-establishment Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians want to restrain government and want no part in what the Globalists and UN think they have in store for us.
     
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    Yah. That's me.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Curious......I'm not doubting that at all. Why wouldn't you be an America First person? I'm seeing Biden making all these moves to world organizations that Trump shunned. The WHO didn't do us any favors with China Virus and Biden is ready to jump right in there.
     
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    Where are you getting that "belief in yourself" bit?

    You're the believer, not me. I prefer knowledge to belief.

    I'm not showing disrespect for your beliefs, just disagreeing with the entire concept of a magical, all-powerful, all-knowing "supreme being." I would appreciate it if you would refrain from disrespect of my views as well.
     
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    This does not represent me, my values nor my beliefs about how humans should treat each other. I cannot stand the sight of him.

    He's a loose cannon. He makes my teeth itch. I need some calm exuding from the WH. Captain Chaos is not healthy for our country.

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    What proof?

    These are your opinions, nothing more.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Knowledge only you can obtain between your own two ears. When you come to the end of yourself (you believe in yourself) you may need something bigger.

    You disrespect my faith when you refer to it as magic. It may appear as magic to you because you don't understand it. It is the essence of all existence.....even what you call "knowledge."
     

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