What It's Like Living In Leftist California

The issue is significantly worse in California than anywhere else.
In California, even the areas 2 hours away from biggest city areas are very unaffordable.

I don't think there's anywhere else that is even really comparable, other than perhaps the NYC area (which has always been pretty bad) and Miami, maybe Oahu Hawaii.

 

Again, you are trying to act like all of California is a metropolitan area. There are areas where homes are cheep — maybe not Texas or third would nation cheap, but affordable.

 

None of the charts posted you responded to had anything to do with averages.
But percentages.
Did you not understand the charts?

 

Out in the middle of the desert where it gets so hot in the summer you will bake your brains out. And even then oftentimes it is not the most affordable.
Or up in the mountains where there is lots of snow and driving down the mountain is often impossible during the winter, making it impossible to commute to a job.

I'm not wasting the time with you. I've already gone into a detailed explanation of this in other threads, no one reads them. The issue takes some effort and time to fully explain.
You can find areas that will be a little less expensive, sure, but there will be something about those areas that makes living there very difficult or unpleasant, there will be some big trade-off.

 

California's public schools are 35th in quality. Florida ranks 14th.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

 

If you do not like average (mean) numbers you are free to look at median numbers to compare.







List of all states by median household income.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_income

 

Even if California still isn't the absolute worst state in the country, in terms of economics, we can still look at the change that's happened.
From say 1990 to 2023.

It can also be pointed out that California's population is still much larger than all those states combined that have a median income lower than $30,000.

So even if California's median income is higher, that still doesn't mean the state is not the big elephant in the room.

 

Consider Florida, we could use another resident who realizes the harmful effects of voting long-term Democrat politicians into office

 

California has the highest poverty rate in the nation. California has the lowest high school graduation rate in the nation.

 

At least a million dollars.

 

Yes it does.

 

Not enough cheese in Wisconsin to go with that whine.

All I see in your posts is "Republicans good; Democrats bad." I was born and raised in California, too. You're waaaaayyy off the wall here.

What is it about the right that makes y'all doomy and gloomy? The world will not come to an end over left/right politics. It's the AIs that will kill us all.

 

Oh puhleeze.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco...is the largest sub,Germany and ahead of India.

If California were an independent nation, their GDP would be 5th. Yeah, that sounds like a boatload of incompetence. All of you California haters can suck it.

 

Well, the fact that so many young people are having to move out of the state because they cannot afford to live there, that certainly seems disconcerting.

And all the disturbing visible homelessness, when things never used to be that bad.

 

I am sure those local Democrat politicians have passed on or have been ridden out of the party by now.

The state’s politics are a cancer that spreads to the rest of the country. We were stuck with the House of Representatives dictatorship of Nancy Pelosi for years. We have the venomous Adam Schiff who was allowed to push the Russia Hoax Lie though out the Trump presidency. Now we have “giggle puss” Kamala Harris whose incompetence is on full display for the entire world to see. And there is the senile Dianne Feinstein who continues to hang on. If there is a bad idea, there is a good chance that it came from California.

Even the Republicans somehow have Kevin McCarthy, who do far, at least, has not turned into Paul Ryan. Perhaps we will get to dodge that political bullet.

 

If California were an independent nation, it would be bankrupt and look like Venezuela. The state’s economy was that big, relative to the rest of nation, back in the 1960s. Back then it had sane, two party leadership. If the mess that dominates it now had been in power since that time, California would look like what San Francisco and Los Angeles look like now. One vast homeless encampment with widespread poverty and crime. Under the current political philosophy, the state will be there in a couple decades.

The middle class can’t afford to live in California, and they drive the economy. Once high taxes, crime, ridiculous real estate prices and inept leadership have driven them out, the economic shaft will open up for the state.

 

Ah, another thread about "this decline". How refreshing.

 

I live in Florida and your discription fits here as well, except we don't produce any notable wine.

 

Perhaps you should move to California. You seem to be one of those die hard Democrats who consistently deny reality.

As for wine, the state does produce some of the very sweet stuff, which not to my taste. The climate is simply too warm to produce anything else.

 

Every State has some level of corruption. It's the way EVERYTHING is.

 

The trouble with high incomes, it drives up the price of everything else, most especially real estate and a place to live, including rents. My wife and I live in Florida. We might be called "rich" relative to our neighbors. If we lived in Manhattan, we would barely be scaping by to live a middle class lifestyle. A co-op apartment the size of a chicken coop costs over $1 million. Beyond that, you have to pay thousands a month in real estate taxes and maintenance fees. Add to that crime that through the roof, and woke politicians who think that's just fine. In Florida, you can own a house with pool for less than half of that. Ridiculous California real prices are legendary.

The high income is those states is not all it's cracked up to be. You need to consider the cost of living.

 

On the contrary, on its own, it would be the worlds 5th biggest economy, and its about to become 4th largest.

Here are the 10 states with the highest poverty rates:

• Mississippi - 19.07%
• Louisiana - 18%
• New Mexico - 17.85%
• West Virginia - 16.9%
• Kentucky - 15.76%
• Arkansas - 15.47%
• Alabama - 14.96%
• Oklahoma - 14.56%

 

Funny. It's wasn't that long ago that that the California State Government couldn't pay its debts. They were handing out vouchers because their checks would have bounced.

My point is that the current, one party leadership in the state is gradually taking it down the tubes. One of its big banks just failed. The Federal Government stepped in a bailed it out. even beyond the $250,000 FDIC limit. If California were a country, its government would have had to do that on its own. How much you want to bet that a bunch of those billionaires would have lost a bundle which would have sent the economy reeling?

 

You are only admitting that abundant resources combined with high taxes do not equal a thriving society under Dem control. Having the ability to see things does not make someone a hater.

Its great for the rich, but those Dems claim to care the most about are worse off here than any other state.

You neglected to factor in the cost of living. Common mistake.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...alifornia-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

 

Oh, ok. He-he-he

I'll never live in CA, but I have no reason to lie about that State, or any other State.

I live in Florida. The weather is nice, except for the hurricanes, Property taxes are sky high, home insurance rates are sky high, and the housing market is the least affordable in the nation. Why should I be raving about States I do not live in, and will never live in. I live here and I hope we can fix our problems, and if we can't I'll consider moving to Portugal for a few years and see what happens. Or Panama maybe.

Its not a mistake. You use a different method, which puts Florida squarely on #2 spot as the poorest State in the nation

Is the one party leadership in Florida is gradually taking it down the tubes?