What to do if SCOTUS rules against Obamacare?

So you don't favor a democratic proposal? I would like to know what the democrats would propose.

 

Initially, most of the nation will devolve into Texas that has the highest percentage of uninsured whose medical expenses are just dumped on the taxpayer.

Massachusetts, with its RomneyCare, will just revert to that model for ObamaCare.

Eventually, the far more cost-effective, inclusive paradigm of advanced nations will have to be adopted for the US in spite of hardcore ideological dogma, but many will suffer before that happens. End the huge taxpayer subsidies to those covered under employer-administered plans, and you will accelerate progress considerably.

 

I was just your typical UnitedHealthcare subscriber. It stunk. Out loud.

 

ROFL who do you think is paying for Obamacare?

Except the premise of you prediction is false. Those countries are facing HUGE hurdles in paying for their health, are cutting back on services and even in some places adopting free market measures. Even here the states that set up the exchanges as the program called for are having HUGE difficulties with about half unable to pay for them and Hawaii already taken over by the federal government, Oregon had to complete dump theirs and more to follow. And THAT with the HUGE cost increases coming.

Now tell me how the IRS operates "cost effective" how about the AG department which is about to junk it's IT upgrade that was supposed to be done in 2012 at a HUGE cost upfront and now $100 million over that. $100 million just to upgrade software. Can you imagine such mismanagement if the business world? And you want the government to run our health care system?

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Isn't it absurd they fix Obama's problem?

 

Then maybe you can explain the poll that showed prior to Obamacare, 85% of the country were happy with their health insurance? We're now spending trillions to tear apart a functioning healthcare system and implement an unconstitutional plan in an attempt to mollify a small percentage of people, many of whom simply exercised their own freedom of choice NOT to carry health insurance! And it was the most gullible voters who believed Obama's lies who stuck us with this mess!

 

It's not at all clear who you are responding to since you did not properly use the quote reply feature

In any case, you mention a pole, but what pole is that. You might want to provide a link to your source. I suspect that 85% if accurate at all, would be 85% of those who had insurance, not actually of the whole country. Also, I can't help but to think that many of those who were happy, felt that way because they were healthy and had not found out that they could be dropped like a hot potato if they became seriously ill.

 

I was part of the 85% and the 85% included those on Medicare and Medicaid. I also had health problems, was not dropped as that would have been against the policy. What I am NOW is very UNHAPPY as my cost has gone up, my deductible WAY up and now only covers 60% after meeting that high deductible if I even get there.

 

Sorry to hear about you troubles, but that is just your story which is impossible for me to comment on. It says nothing of about the "big picture". No one is claiming that everyone is happy or better off w/ O_care. and this certainly does not address the points that I made above.

 

I assume by a "far more cost-effective, inclusive paradigm of advanced nations" you mean some sort of national healthcare scheme. I'm rather dubious about that since the best and brightest your party had to offer put together Obamacare, and it seems designed to add inefficiency after inefficiency into the health care system. Vermont, one of the most liberal states in the nation, recently gave up the idea of a a universal healthcare system; they just couldn't make the costs work. So if a super liberal, small state with low levels of uninsured can't make it work, I'm not sure how a national scheme would be "far more cost effective."

But they beauty of federalism is that you're welcome to try in your own state.

 

The quote was from Phoebe Bump, and it was included but not credited in my post. Is the poster's name that important? I'm new here, and I'll be happy to comply with the use of quote feature more properly if it is such a serious breach of rules. And it was from just a few posts before my own, and quoted by others several times.
I'm more than happy to provide the link, and here is additionally the specific Gallup poll addressing the issue in '09. I assumed that well-publicized figure was known by all, and didn't require a link. But apparently it wasn't the kind of information the left-wing media enjoyed revealing very often, was it?
And yes, of course it was a poll of those who had healthcare insurance! How would you be qualified to answer it if you didn't have any? And you may also note that the poll was taken AFTER Obama's promises were made DOZENS of times about how insurance costs would DROP by $2500, how you could KEEP your own plan if you wanted to, and would always have the option of keeping your doctors as well, which ALL were now clearly blatant lies, which had not yet been proven at that point in time! I feel it's also important to note that your subsequent theories on the reasons for such a high favorability rate are pure guesswork on your part, but it certainly reveals another example of how those on the left feel they must patronize the rest of the country, since we are clearly too dumb to understand the complexities of such matters for ourselves, and obviously don't know what's good for us! Am I right?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123149/cost-is-foremost-healthcare-issue-for-americans.aspx

 

Which is typical.

 

Given the GOP Congress has no back-up plan ready to go....

I'm betting the USSC sides with the Administration, out of fear of causing chaos.

Roberts, Alito, Kennedy may not like the ACA...but the risk of anarchy and the GOP looking embarrassed by scrambling to put together a "rescue plan" would be a political nightmare for themselves and the GOP.

 

I agree that will be the outcome but it is because if they were going to end the subsidies, they would have released the ruling early to stop the financial damage people would be incurring if they went the other way. I do not think it is because they want to save the GOP, but because the federal exchange acts as a state exchange in relation to the respective consumer. A resident of a state can only have the options they would have if the state ran the exchange itself. Someone in FL cannot qualify for policies of medicaid in California just because they go through the federal exchange. All your options are still specific to your state of residence.

 

It's Obama's plan to back up not theirs. They didn't create the mess. He got us into this fix now you want the Republicans to bail him out.

What is HIS policy to avert the problem if SCOTUS rules as it should.

Then they will have violated their oaths of office and the Constitution. It is NOT their role to fix faulty legislation. Obama needs to step up to the plate and prove he is a leader and lead us out of the mess.

 

Get rid of obamacare. Its cost a fortune and caused untold pain to 100's of Millions of people just to get insurance for a few million people. obamacare is a pack of lies, abolish it.