When Admission of Guilt is "Not Evidence" of Crime

Joe Biden proudly confessed to the crime of bribery by telling the Ukranian president you won't get the billion dollars unless you fire your prosecutor (investigating my son)."

The Fake News Liars (but I repeat myself) endlessly say "No evidence," "No evidence," "No evidence" (of criminal wrongdoing by Hunter Biden)." Irrespective of whether or not Hunter Biden, who by the way was kicked out of the military after testing positive for cocaine, was guilty of bribery, his father clearly is guilty of bribing the Ukranian president by threatening to withhold a billion dollars. Case closed, except in any Leftist mind.

 

Could be a play to get Biden out of the race and face a more radical Dem nominee.

 

Yes, Biden confessed to bribery and laughed about it to bring in a bigger idiot than himself to run for president, and perhaps be indicted for his crime. What marvelous perspicacity you demonstrate.

 

He can, and does, argue that this was a legit use of power to get rid of a Prosecutor that is himself corrupt and compromised. I've also been told that Biden was also doing what many important people in the EU wanted. But that's why you look into it. Biden is photographed with people he claimed to not even know about (his son's business partner). It was extremely inappropriate for Biden to have been involved in this even if it were legit rather than that it was just covering up his and his own son's personal corruption. What we know is that the legacy media are treating Trump like he's done something wrong because he MIGHT have done what Biden actually brags about doing. Troubling.

 

<Rule 2> Yes Biden (with most of the rest of the Planet) told Ukraine in public and on record, (to parapharse) "I you want our money, you clean up the corruption here." (He was in Ukraine at the time.) Trump did exactly the same but he went one bridge too far when he specifically referred to Biden. Therein lies your dilemma, <Rule 2>

 

I have no problem with BOTH Biden and Trump being investigated. Since they are separate incidents, one would not forgive the other.

 

1. This is not a valid thread by Current Event rules... it won't last the day in this forum
2. The difference, that you completely fail to understand, is that it was the stated policy of the US and many other organizations to have that corrupt prosecutor removed, while Trump is ASKING that same country to participate in corruption.
3. If the Ukrainians wanted to investigate either Biden, they are free to do so at any time... They have chosen not to.
4. If Joe Biden doesn't get the nomination, it will be some combination of gaffes, age, and a better candidate elsewhere, not this moldy oldie...
5. Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

 

Biden admits to exactly what Trump is accused of and who do Democrats go after? Yeah, let’s take them serious. They literally make up what Trump says, means or was thinking to convince themselves he did something they want him to do.

It’s insanity. But according to Harris, Biden should just be left alone. Really???

 

This is the only unbiased path forward if you ask me. Otherwise you just have folks screaming about the guy they don't like being corrupt while ignoring the guy they do. I only wish that Trump supporters had cared as much about corruption in 2016 with Trump as they seem to now, only because Biden is involved.

 

And obama and hillary and the DNC over the 2016 russia collusion hoax

 

The origins of the 2016 Trump campaign investigation is currently purportedly being investigated, or had you not heard that (somehow)?

It will find the same result as before... Most of the people investigating Trump and his campaign were biased against Trump, yet did nothing improper as a result...

The FISA warrant was properly obtained, even if Carter Page wasn't eventually charged with anything.

Get new material... and you really will need to stay focused on the issues at hand... Trump/Ukraine/Military Aid/Investigate my Opponent.

 

Do you really not see the difference?


Yes Biden (with most of the rest of the Planet) told Ukraine in public and on record, (to parapharse) "If you want our money, you clean up the corruption here."

 

LOL! And his son just happened to be involved. What a coincidence!

 

Hypothetical.. If Hunter Biden never worked in Ukraine, does that make Joe Bidens actions better or worse for you?

 

Most of the free world along with international monetary organizations favored Obama's decision to withhold a billion dollars in aid until Ukraine cleaned up corruption. Biden merely repeated the very public warning. More significant however, what enumeration or value was in the deal for Biden personally? None. What action other than corruption was part of the deal? Did they ask for personal favors? That is what is at issue here.

 

Huh? You have no problem with having Biden investigated but Trump should be investigated for asking to have Biden investigated? In what universe does it make any logical sense? Jeez

Factual, not hypothetical, Hunter Biden NEVER worked in Ukraine, he collected protection money in Ukraine, it ain't no work. Duh​

 

You try to have a reasonable conversation with you people, but you are all over the place = Futile

 

Trying to pass factual (Hunter Biden never worked in Ukraine) for hypothetical does not reasonable conversation make. Duh

Hunter Biden was paid $80,000/month by a Ukrainian oligarch's company and you won't be able to name his contribution to the company worth 1 ****ing Ukrainian hryvna.....Other than Hunter's daddy stopping the investigation of the oligarch and his company which of course made the "investment" in protection by the Biden family absolutely priceless.

 

LOL... keeps going up... let me know when Biden was making $100,000/week.....

 

TRUE. But he literally stated quid pro quo. He stated exactly what Democrats claimed Trump said. And what was corrupt about Trump using a common phrase do me a favor? Not you must do this or else. There is ZERO evidence anyone was coerced or pressured. Zero evidence anything was held back. ZERO evidence of quid pro quo. Yet Trump should be impeached because he did what? He’s mean? They don’t like him? Uuuum. That’s quite weak.

And Biden’s completely incompetent son with no experience at all doing anything, somehow gets a job on a board, getting paid a ridiculous amount because his dad, using govt influence, is rubbing elbows with Ukrainian companies? That’s just standard corrupt BS I guess that we need to leave alone? Democrats are NOT holding their own to any standard what so ever. They’re pointing fingers while being massive hypocrites. Sorry. That’s doesn’t fly.

 

Big difference. Biden actually said it do this or else. Trump didn’t. I get asked to do things at work all the time as favors. My wife says do me a favor every week. It doesn’t mean you must do this act I won’t do this in return.

And you have to take into account Trumps way of speaking. It’s the same BS that reading words doesn’t provide context. You need to hear tone. You need to hear how the person being spoken to responds. And in this case Zelenski said he felt no pressure at all. It’s NOT quid pro quo. If Trump literally said what Democrats claim he said, impeach the mother fracker. But you can’t just make **** up and out words and meaning in people mouths. Sorry no.

 

Biden said get rid of corruption.. Trump was soliciting corruption. Are you making excuses for the crude, sloppy way Trump speaks? Come on.. He's an adult.

 

Hunter Biden worked for an international consulting firm hired by a company in Ukraine.

 

Well, you know how Kamala has an affinity for the older gents...

 

We should impeach him.

Oh wait,