Which is the greater threat to the country

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  1. MMC

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    BREAKING : Over 40 Illegals Arrested For Trying to Vote in ...
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    Reports are coming in that Over 40 Illegal Aliens have been arrested trying to vote for Hillary. We expected this to be true, but now we have actual proof. More than 40 illegal aliens have been caught trying to vote for Hillary


    Illegal Foreign Voting in Virginia Covered Up by Soros ...
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    Virginia’s election officials are enabling illegal registration and voting by foreign citizens, according to an extensive new study, titled “Alien Invasion in Virginia,” by a …

    Illegal alien arrested, charged with voter fraud | ICE
    https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/illegal-alien-arrested-charged...
    - An illegal alien from the Philippines was arrested Thursday morning on a felony complaint charging her with 17 counts related to voter fraud in Lake County. The state charges resulted from a joint investigation conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the Lake County State's Attorneys Office.

    FLASHBACK: WaPo Publishes Study That Claims Millions of ...
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    Most non-citizens do not register, let alone vote. But enough do that their participation can change the outcome of close races. … How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted.

    Illegals charged for voting in presidential election - WND
    https://www.wnd.com/2018/03/illegals-charged-for-voting-in...
    Three illegal aliens in Illinois were indicted on felony charges for voting in the 2016 election. The clerk’s office of Lake County, north of Chicago, discovered the alleged crimes, charging three illegal aliens with perjury for misrepresenting their citizenship.



    Reality says otherwise.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With only six states sending in data, it was destined for failure.
     
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    Which is the greater threat to the country

    Debt..
     
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    Did you feel the wind as the trolls rushed out the door?...………...
     
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    Perhaps they used your social security card. The number shows those who were born in the United States.
     
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    Like voting really matters.
     
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    Where in your post does it show a single illegal voted? The bill you quote isn't California law it is only a bill.
     
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    LOL

    It's signed into law! You might try at least avail yourself of the convenience I provided via the link I included before proving you don't want to be bothered by such reasonable task.

    Motor Voter

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    So if no illegals vote, why include the provisions that excuse them for doing so?

    Further, how would they know if they voted or not, if nobody is looking?

    The claim illegals don't vote is so devoid of fact and logic I'm surprised people continue to try and make it.
     
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    "Reality"?

    Breitbart? World Nuts Daily?

    That first one was a doozy. Was that a made up Russian news site?
     
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    California used to be a red state. Then In the 1980's there was an earthquake, that opened up a gaping crack across parts of California. One of these cracks swallowed up the Focus on the Family's headquarters and sucked it back to hell, where it came from. Dobson and company, deciding it was a sign from their god, moved to Colorado, across I-25 from the Air Force Academy, turning Colorado red. The exodus of conservative Christian sects from Califorina has left California blue.

    I find it funny that Republicans spend so much effort bashing California, as it has lost its leadership position. If you want to see the new liberalism, the leading edge of society and the economy, It is in Washington, Oregon, and Colorado.

    By the way, the demographics of California and Texas are nearly identical. The difference is Texas employs voter suppression, whereas California does not. Thus Texas has aquired the tag, No Vote Texas, having one of the lowest voter turnouts.
     
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    Pure bullshit

    https://www.politifact.com/californ...ifornia-didnt-pass-law-allowing-undocumented/

    On a thred TALKING about Russian disinformation...here you are spreading disinformation.

    I'd say you should be ashamed of yourself but I don't think shame is in your DNA
     
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    And, just because they proved you wrong. Doesn't mean what they reported on wasn't the truth and facts.

    You can also go to Discover the Networks they have Volume 1 and 2 with Illegal voting, Voter fraud. All kinds of links. Going all the way back to when the Demos and their Collective started cheating.

    Of Course you can deny those that were Convicted in Chicago Illinois. That the Left got it wrong in convicting them and locking them up. As that is who did it. That would be Rahm Emanuel and His Administration.

    Face the facts illegals vote if they can. Oh and the Demos will cheat. So there is no reason to falsify that it isn't happening.
     
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    First, this is a thread that is discussion the greatest threat to the country. There are many, and they are being discussed.

    Please apologize for your personal attack and insult.

    Second, the fact check for the worthless Progressive website PolitiFact is pathetic.

    I provided the direct language from AB 1461. The Progressives at PolitiFact attempt to argue the bill was designed to register illegals to vote. That is bullshit. Nobody is claiming that.

    The fact is, the law provides an out if the illegal was registered to vote "by mistake" and then voted based on that "error".

    Does PolitiFact even mention the language in the actual law?

    No it doesn't, which just adds more evidence to the load of crap the Progressive owned PolitiFact oozes out with great frequency.

    Back to your insult and attack, I'll be looking for an apology.
     
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    That attitude gave us Trump my friend
     
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    You complain about politicafact but use Breitbart and Worldnuts Daily as well as that Russian fake news site?

    Oh...
     
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    Do you have anything relevant to offer, or are you going to continue to troll and attack?

    Just trying to find out if I should continue to waste time on your usual nonsense.

    As anyone can see, I'm post facts, providing links, and supporting my position.

    You, as usual, are just hurling insults and bullshit like that.

    So, should I just move on?
     
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    Here is what the California Department of Motor Vehicles says about AB 60 licenses.

    This is a special driver's license that:

    · May NOT be used for identification purposes.

    · MAY be used to drive anywhere throughout the state of California.

    · Has a distinguishing feature and notice on the front of the license indicating that it is for driving purposes only, per the AB-60 law (i.e. “DP" instead of “DL").

    · Cannot be used against the license holder to determine their immigration status or citizenship, or detain them in any way for reasons other than valid traffic violations.
    https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

    1. It does not look the same as a regular California drivers license
    2. If it can't be used for identification purposes it can't be used at the polls
    3. Also the requirements set to vote in any federal election are set by the Federal Government not the state
     
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    Your version of "facts" is seriously suspect
     
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    LOL

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Not sure where you got all this nonsense, but I'll leave you to it.

    I prefer to deal in reality. But your welcome to whatever floats your dingy.
     
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    And as noted in the "bogus left wing PolitiFact" link...the minute AB60 is typed into the application...the voting section becomes greyed out and registration can not go forward.


    oh...
     
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    I provided the text of California's Motor Voter Law, which passed two years after AB60.

    Why are you ignoring it?

    You responded to the post where that text was provided.

    Any explanation why you are ignoring the new law, and the provisions which excuse an illegal alien from voting?
     
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    I thought it was funny that the left tries to preach that mantra about illegal aliens don't vote. Especially when it was documented in History.
     
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    You mean like the words from actual law? Taken from a government website that provides citizens access to the legislation text and history of it's creation and passage?

    Given your points of view, I can understand why the actual words from a law would be something you would find suspicious.
     
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    :roflol:

    No, it wasn't.

    Please America, fix the education system. It's killing our youth. Please!!
     
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    Meh, they even have had illegals tell authorities that they can get ID's, Birth certificates, SS Numbers, even government issued ID's.


    22 Illegal Aliens Arrested in Identity Fraud Scheme ...
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    Among the illegal aliens arrested include, “Frank Lara, also known as Roberto Villegas, was a heroin and cocaine dealer in Boston. He had seven convictions, five …


    Illegal immigrants turn to identity theft - Technology ...
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    Identity theft has been a growing worry in the United States, but a rise in federal prosecutions of immigrants offers a new wrinkle on the problem. As better systems are developed for verifying employment, illegal immigrants are assuming the names and government-issued ID numbers of Americans like Miranda to thwart detection at workplaces, get driver's licenses and obtain credit.
     
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