While you were sleeping...

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by austrianecon, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. austrianecon

    austrianecon Banned

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    A very important person, Attila Szalay-Berzeviczy, in European Banking,Global Head of Global Securities Services at Unicredit (and former Chairman of the Budapest Stock Exchange) wrote an oped in a Hungarian paper. You might have missed it over the "BBC Trader" Alessio Rastani; Who is probably the most honest person ever to speak on TV about traders and institutions in the industry. But back to Berzeviczy article.

    The future.
     
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    You are such a faker, Austrianecon!

    Sorry, but the losses of "private stakeholders" will not be socialized anymore. Suck it up -- this is the foundation of a free-market economy.

    The assumption that Europeans -- in contrast with Americans -- hate the financial markets because they can't dictate them for their political gains is just outright hilarious.

    In short, a real crappy Op-Ed.
     
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    austrianecon Banned

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    Uh... I have no issue with the equity of private shareholders disappearing and nobody is actually talking about that. What people are concerned about is Bond Holder who lends money. Bond Holders in the Piigs are not people individually but institutions (Government, Banks and Hedge Funds) that buy bonds for a group of people.

    I have no problem sucking it up. But does the rest of world? Will you be singing a different tune when trillions of dollars disappear overnight?

    For example.. it's very possible your bank owns Piigs Bonds. If those Bonds are defaulted on all that money your bank lend to the Piigs just vanishes. The very next day when you go to the ATM and want to withdrawl some money and you can't because your bank has no funds to cover your withdrawl.

    This happen before and will happen again. The Great Depression was filled with these examples.

    Now what you do think the ECB is going to do? ECB is going to flood all banks with extra Euros.. bailing out the system. But the market will punish the ECB for this by valuing the Euro more cheaply (inflation). The ECB and the leaders of Europe think they can avoid all of it, but they can't. Greece can default today or 10 years from now, either way it's gonna end the same way.

    That's where the European ignorance and even American ignorance within Governments comes from. I don't assume this, it's a fact. It will take Germany to say no and it has yet to do so.
     
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    Are ya sleepin' good?...
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    Bad sleep 'dramatically' alters body
    25 February 2013 - A run of poor sleep can have a potentially profound effect on the internal workings of the human body, say UK researchers.
     
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    Granny says now we got somethin' else to lie awake at night an' worry `bout...
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    Poor sleep linked to heart failure, Norwegian study says
    5 March 2013 - Waking up too early and having problems settling back to sleep may have a negative impact on the heart, a study shows
     
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    This wealth was never real to begin with.
     

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