Whistleblower is CIA agent

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  1. EarthSky

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    I'm not listening to DNC spin. Doesn't have to be for qpq for an abuse of office that is Trumper spin. This is just the tip which is why Trump and Giuliani are squirming around like monkeys in a cage throwing scat on the walls hoping something, anything will stick. The transcript speaks for itself. Giuliani and Trump have admitted the abuse of power.

    There followers are so blinded they don't believe them though.
     
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    I don't know that you've never promoted violence here since you recommended street action. For the most part, street action is antifa doing something to innocents (at least in the US in the current year). If you are publicly disavowing violence that's a good thing.
     
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    These word games are just distraction. If you really don't know go read the report and see what Mueller actually said about exoneration. But I know you're just spinning the Trump/Barr bs because you have nothing else to distract from the disaster unfolding for this presidency.

    I suppose we can expect this stuff for the duration until impeachment reaches the senate when the bs will really fly.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are only two possible outcomes - Guilty or Innocent. The rest was designed to keep the Leftist anti President fervor on simmer. That was the only card the Witch Hunters had to play.
     
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    The right to peaceful assembly and protest is assured in the 1st amendment and it has been going on since the republic began. Your strawman tactic is ridiculous and I don't have to disavow violence because I never promoted it and you cannot provide any quotes where I did so you should stop with the misrepresentation as it is dishonest and lazy.

    I could just as easily say that because you are equating peaceful protest with Antifa that you support those that march against them like these good people:

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    Why are you supporting fascist marches by white supremacist groups?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In fact it is Congress who created the budget and Trump signed it against his will only because he wanted to restore the military. Which he did. Now he is also working to defend the southern border.
    He cooperated.

    The Dems are falling into a trap.

    "The president's defense in the Senate, accordingly, must engage, spotlight, scrutinize and expose the entire course of odious conduct by the president's corrupt attackers, from their first spinning of the Russia collusion hoax,through the latest chapter in their attempted coup.

    Everything will be relevant in the Senate trial, and everyone, no exceptions, should be subpoenaed and interrogated under oath. That means Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Brennan, James Comey, Peter Strzok, and the entire gang behind the coup.

    That includes Strzok, his girlfriend Lisa Page, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, and whatever Deep State apparatchiks lied to the FISA judge to enable a spying operation on the Trump campaign and transition team — a crime without precedent and one that massively outweighs anything that could credibly be alleged against President Trump".


    I'm hamstrung by facts.
     
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    No, that is Trump trying to spin it to make himself look innocent. Mueller state
    Nope, that is just Trumper/Barr spin. Mueller found evidence of obstruction and left it to congress to further action as it was beyond his jurisdiction. But I never thought that collusion in the 2016 was the real story. I was always more interested in Trump's criminality going back decades and the ties to Russia from Trump Soho and all.

    You guys are trying to go back to Mueller to try to distract from what is going on now which is a lot more serious.
     
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    And all those Dem lawyers, after two years of investigation and $35 million, found him guilty of what?
    Well perhaps you can have Mueller hold another Witch Hunt after this Ukrainian stunt fails.
    As far as I'm concerned the Mueller part of the hoax as been settled, apart from how it all began.
     
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    Yes, those will be the tactics to try and deflect from Trump's criminality once it reaches the Senate. We will see if it plays as more damning info on Trump's abuse of office comes out. The Democratic party is not the deep state and I as have yet not seen any evidence of criminality as a result of those allegations. If the Republicans try to stall with these tactics, I predict the American people outside of Trump's most blinkered and rabid followers will be disgusted with the tawdry show and Trump will be a distant ugly memory in 2020/

    [quote[ I'm hamstrung by facts.[/QUOTE]

    You are hamstrung by loyalty, for whatever reason to a liar, cheap conman and criminal posing as a president. We will see how this plays out but I think you are misunderstanding the gravity of the situation. You appear to be one of those who will keep up the Trump facade of innocence or even competence right to the end no matter how ugly his lunatic presidency gets.

    Do you ever actually watch his speeches, tweets or televised interviews? He's hilarious as he flails around trying to desperately shovel his way out. Great comedy but horrible for your country.
     
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    Trump has already been investigated since he became President. Now it's the Democrats who began al these false stories to be investigated.
    These are your feelings. not facts. If they were facts you'd use fewer adjectives.
    Yes, Trump can be an entertainer and amusing to watch.
     
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    Impeach then or keep spinning away.
     
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    Lol!
    That is such a left wing thing to say! Everything is an argumentum ad hitlerum.
     
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