White author won't translate Amanda Gorman's works after criticism it was inappropriate

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    It's just getting more insane. Who cares who translates it as long as they have the ability to translate it? Are socities resegregatimg themselves:
     
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    Ability is such a racist, white privilege concept.
     
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    Was there ever a time when a white man couldn't process the works of another white person regardless of their ethnicity? Like, say, a white person of indeterminate background singing an Irish folk song?
    (Just wondering.)

    Anyway, the Black existence is unique, so this situation is inappropriate, and there's got to be a Black person somewhere that can translate from English into the Duch language.

    I would say whites have no business translating works by a Black author while she is still alive.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do white people subject themselves to this bull-piss all the time? I know we're supposed to be nice and all but there has to be a limit.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When the tolerant, inclusive and non judgemental folks who say color shouldn't matter ask me why bigotry, discrimination and racism is still alive, I'm going to refer them to this post of yours and let them ask you.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    You've left me speechless.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    We will see a nuclear reaction to this over sensitivity to race and especially political. ' korrektness'. I am so glad that February is over in about 4 hours 21 minutes because I have had enough about February being Black History month I could puke from overkill.
    I love history most any kind but I do not want to drown in one kind.

    Blacks think that they're the only group who got the short end of the stick when it came to history! BULLSCIEST!!

    So called historians made it appear that there were only two kinds of people in all of Europe- English and French. Just for ha ha ha's the Germans were mentioned because of Bismarck and the Italians because of. Garibaldi. The 17 or so Slavonic countries were treated as if we were ghosts and if that stinking Russia did not decide to become murderous Bolsheviks and commit political genocide they/ it also would have been ignored.

    I just about had to explain to moron teachers in high school that Slovenians are not the same as Slovakians and no no no fornicating no Hungarians are not Slavs they are not even called Hungarians but Magyars and descended from Turks- Iranian and Magyar tribes.

    So my Black friends you are not the only ones ignored and be glad you are notbtreated in history like the American Indians. Get over your hurt and get back to work like the rest of us minorities.
     
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    So non Aramaens and non Hebrew should never have been allowed to translate the Bible. Exclude the Greek and Romans too. The King James Version of the Bible should never have existed.

    Give me a break!
     
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    We are brewing like a nuclear reactor. I am obviously no supporter of the Trumpocity. Anyone who is intelligent and can see the forest from the trees knows that this White resentment is what Trumpocity tapped into. No he did not care about the working class White Schlup bu he is a great salesman and he knew he could own those who feared Blacks ( and other non Whites) would be be pushing them out of the control position. No Trumpocity is not trying to save the White race but he sure as shits knows how use White resentment to further his own desires.
     
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    I'll make an exception for historical purposes. Although in my previous post I did limit it to the period of her life.

    I also say that Blacks(notice the uppercase B) have a unique experience.
     
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    I will concede that American Blacks do have a rather unique experience.
    Still too much and too often in your face Black this Back that can cause a negative reaction.
     
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    How in the world is the Bblack existence unique? God what a puffed up idiotic thing to say.
     
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    What the ****? Uhhhh, ok well if we're dividing the use of invention/creation along race lines then I suppose you're ok with telling non-Whites to stop diving cars, stop getting on airplanes, stop using computers and phones, well I guess anything that requires electricity really. In fact why was this young lady even speaking English to begin with? That language isn't "unique" to her race so by your logical its off limits.

    This Black Supremacy garbage is getting so out of control. Its "inappropriate" to translate one word to another because a black person said it are you freakin kidding me with this nonsense? Why don't these race-pimping race-obsessed RACIST progressives just skip to the final step of their plan and bring back segregation because its so damned obvious that's what they want.

    Oh and p.s. her poem SUCKED so why is anyone worried about translating it? You can find more interesting, coherent, and apt commentary on the human condition over at r/memes.
     
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    So is equality, and equal opportunity. We'd better cancel both.

    Time for some New Medievalism!
     
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    It's a NUMBERS game FFS. How many qualified black Dutch interpreters do you think there are, compared to white Dutch interpreters?
     
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    And how about those light skinned Egyptian archaeologists, interpreting glyphs carved by Nubian slaves 3000 years ago?
     
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    How, and why?
     
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    Ok, so, here's the deal: if you know why blackface is wrong, then it's the same reason why a white man shouldn't translate a black woman's work.

    If you don't know why blackface is wrong, then it's because a black person was overlooked and passed by to play a role. And it was played by a white person instead.
     
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    That’s her call if she wants to pander, however, I highly doubt most sane black folks actually respect this silly concept
    When you think about it. It’s actually a form of segregation
     
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    Do you know that "girlface" is wrong? Men pretending to be women, and taking female roles in industry, sport, media, welfare, etc etc?

    How about negroid peoples faking the straight hair of non-negroids? Is that wrong?

    Show us the internal consistency of your philosophy, please.
     
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    I wonder how much discrimination I could get away with by claiming an attempt to avoid abusing my priveledge... I'll never find out because I have no interest in such discrimination, but I do wonder.

    'I cant hire you because I shouldn't be telling someone of your ethnicity what to do.'

    'I can't fix your car because that would be suggesting that your ethnicity prevents you from fixing it yourself.'

    And on and on...

    Or maybe I can do these things, but not until an ethnic minority publicly assures all my peers that I'm not racist!

    Yup. Thats where this is going. Just you watch.
     
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    By this logic no black person ever will ever the right to translate the words of a white author (or indeed an author of any other race) if the author concerned is still alive. And the same would obviously apply to any other form of artistic endeavor.

    It may have escaped your notice but every human being on the planet has a unique experience and therefore a unique perspective of life. That is part of the human condition. So what gives you the right to assert sovereignty over the perspective and world view of every other Black person on the Globe? Because by doing so... congrats your putting yourself right up alongside all the great tyrants of history.
     
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    For some reason this triggered a memory of an interview I saw once where I cannot for the life of me recall who the author was. Anyway the person ended up helping translate one of their own books from english to russian so that it could be illegally distributed on the internet (illegal as in copyright infringement) because the author was sick of these copyright thieves butchering his works and distributing them with his name attached to them. During the course of helping them, the author discovered that the person he was helping was something like a science teacher who was being paid to translate books for illegal distribution on the side for a few hundred dollars a month even though the science teacher was horrible at the job.

    Anyway, this ties into that whole mentality that straight people shouldn't play gay characters, etc etc.
     
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    And this is why people voted for Trump.
     
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    Lol..that's what hitler used to say.
     

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