White cop gunned down in cold blood by black thug with 21 priors

I made WHAT up? I made the assumption that YOU wouldn't be disseminating racism of your own making. I was wrong. You DID do exactly that!

Which makes it worse for you, but my point is the same: YOU (not Breitbart THIS time) have illustrated how the right uses and propagates racism.

Done

 

I disagree. It is unwise to make policy only thinking of the most extreme and unusual cases. Plenty of otherwise productive lives can be ruined by excessive sentencing. Obviously not this guy, but many others if you made policy based upon him.

 

It IS according to the OP. In this case, the OP is the one who propagated the racism.

Racism.... REAL racism (i.e. institutional racism) is illustrated in this thread by the fact that @Darthcervantes assumed that the killer was black. That's how racism functions.

 

Where did Darth assume anything? Oh, perhaps you’re unaware that this story, along with pics of the murderer, has been on the websites of the NY Post and Fox for the last two days.

BTW, based on statistics, when you hear about a murder in NYC and want to take a stab at who did it, what color would you put your money on?

 

Because gun laws don't prevent criminals from getting guns. They always get guns, drugs, etc.

 

It is not racist to assume the killer is black (most cop killers are, and most killers in general, I challenge you to look up the stats for yourself).
Let me ask you something, if someone vandalized a black family's home and wrote the N word all over it with spraypaint, would I be "racist" for assuming the perp was white?
Mediate on that for a while and get back to me.
Cheers!

 

I did assume the perp was black before even seeing the picture (assuming something based on facts is not racist), but he is right that I assumed so I wanted to give him credit for the one thing he was actually right about

 

HE didn't. Not personally. Institutional racism assumed it for him. This is why racism is institutional. Which is what I have been trying to explain for years, in this forum.

 

My point exactly!

 

Zero sympathy for the victim..... Even a White supremacist can manage to work up some modicum of empathy......

 

so you didn't even bother to read the very short article, but decided to shoot the messenger anyway. why am i not surprised? as for guns on the street - with that record i can almost guarantee that he was not in legal possession, so your constant calls to disarm the law abiding probably wouldn't have been applicable in this case.

one of the reasons i have such a hard time taking you and the rest of the "usual suspects" seriously is your is this rabid adherence to progressive dogma. specifically the notion that violence from the left can be tolerated and is usually someone else's fault, but even the faintest intimation of disapproval from the other side of the aisle is nothing short of a call to arms. even the progressive lapdogs in the media can't avoid showing us the rioting that ensues each time a member of one of the "protected classes" is disrespected, but that news is quickly quashed to report on the latest unfounded allegations or compromising situation they can lay at the feet of anyone more conservative than che guevara. the other side of that coin is the endless hours of front page articles devoted to even the most baseless accusations against anyone who might have an (r) next to their name, going on and on until even their enemies grow tired of it all.

the excuses have to end. the knee-jerk accusations have to end. the constant bickering over meaningless details and picking at minuscule nits have to end.

 

You are PERFECTLY illustrating my point about what institutional racism is.

We don't KNOW if most killers are. Institutionally, we ASSUME (like you do) that they are. And THAT is the real meaning of "racism". Not because WE are racists... but because our institutions are racist. Thus the term Institutional Racism.

I have been trying for YEARS to explain this. And you have just managed to do it for me. Racism... REAL racism... is the assumption that most killers are black. There is NO actual verifiable evidence that they are. So... maybe they are... maybe they aren't. We don't know for sure. We only ASSUME that they are.

This is why the cop will tend to stop a car full of blacks, rather than one full of white people. This is why a cop will stop and frisk black people seven times more than white people when there is not motive. This is why blacks are seven times more often falsely arrested. Why black guys are seven times more likely to be convicted of murder. This is why black guys are six times more likely to be shot by police.

THIS is why protests ... and sometimes violence.... exists!!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/what-does-critical-race-theory-teach.589535/

 

No!!! I do not! And I should NOT have to, according to forum rules. IF the poster follows the rules, that should NEVER be necessary.

Because links, articles, references.... according to forum rules, are intended to SUPPORT the point that the poster is making. NOT to make the point for them.

So we READ the support information ONLY if we want to verify what the poster is saying. But the POINT is supposed to be in the post.

That's what forum rules SAY! Read them!

Now, in this case, it turns out the article did NOT support the posters point. But that's not the rules fault. Or mine...

 

Someone's thoughts has absolutely ZERO to do with "institutional racism". Also, institutional racism is a FAKE concept. Assuming is not racist. I can assume whatever the hell I want. Real Racism would be seeing someone on the side of the road that just got into an accident and needs help and you don't help the person because of their race. You people will try and turn ANYTHING into racist but most of us are smart enough to see through the BS.

 

when all else fails, hide behind the rules. you insist of repeatedly giving me no reason to take you seriously. it was you who made the accusations. you were the one to decry breitbart's violent rhetoric, though there was none. you were the one to make the claim of racism, though before your statement the only race mentioned was that of the slain police officer. and you made up the entire thing out of whole cloth. this doesn't even rise to the level of ignorant opinion, it is pure bigotry. the point was made in the op. if this had been a case of a black man dying at the hands of a white man it would have at last made the evening news. if the roles had been reversed we would have bleeding heart politicians coming out of the woodwork, demanding the officer's head on a pike, and there would, of course, have been nearly immediate rioting in the streets. there is that "institutional racism" you're constantly harping about.

 

Not yours, for sure. Because in THIS thread you have illustrated them. You can deny all you want. You might not even understand yet what "institutional racism" means. But, most likely inadvertently, you HAVE made the case that confirms that institutional racism is the REAL problem.

Yep! Because YOU attributed it to Breitbart. There was no reason for me to assume that YOU hadn't read the article you based this whole thread on.

 

You might not like it but actually we do because they keep statistics on such things

 

The rules are there for a reason. If you don't like them, take it up with the mods.

In my case, I think it's WISE to assume that what a poster writes is based on the references they provide. Most of these websites are financed by ads. They have a banner, so every time somebody visits them, they get a fraction of a penny. I have NO interest in giving even a fraction of a penny to Breitbart.

And I'm sure THIS last part is also one of the reasons why forum rules are what they are.

But there was no reason for me to assume that it was the person who brought up the article in the first place was the one who hadn't read it. My fault lies in assuming that he had. And I don't mean to bash him. He corrected himself, and that should be enough. But I ALSO don't want anybody to think that the mistake was mine, when it wasn't.

 

Your point was that regular people should not own firearms. That means that only cops and criminals would have them.

 

Gotta love the creativity of hardened criminals.

Suspected NYC cop-killer stashed shiv in body cavity in case he needed it that night: police source

The ex-con suspected of killing an NYPD cop was so conditioned to crime that he had a shiv stashed in his rectum that night — anticipating he might be busted for something, a police source said Tuesday.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/26/us-ne...n-case-he-needed-it-that-night-police-source/

 

Who is responsible for 'institutional racism?' My guess is you're going to blame white people and wouldn't that be racist on your part?

 

The best part of this thread is how a black guy murders a white guy and what’s important to leftists is institutional racism.

 

No it wouldn't.

 

https://abc7ny.com/queens-nypd-officer-killed-shot-jonathan-diller/14571979/

Judges aren't doing their job.

 

Because criminals don't adhere to laws..