White Guilt is ABSURD!

Your post is not true

 

Very convincing....

 

Immigrants cant get on welfare they have to prove citizenship and the idea that they're coming here to take advantage is just not true

 

Time to take care of our own, that is why Trump won.

 

Also, in our early history we needed as many people as possible, because we were nation building and back then, no one was exactly skill-less and mostly everyone was coming over poor. Everyone was building a life. If you were the first one to hit a piece of land and start building a house, it was yours. You didn't have to pay federal income tax living out in the wilderness. You weren't guaranteed welfare, clean water, medical care, ect. You fended for yourself. Even in cities, if you couldn't find a job, you starved. No one would take care of you. You simply can't intelligently compare those days with now and claim our immigration needs are the same. Its absurd and insulting to be that blind to the realities of our economy and limited resources.

 

That is why my ancestor came here in the 1600s as an indentured servant. We had a frontier to be settled, where all it took was a grubstake and courage, and you went from a poor European who owned little, to having your own land, where by your sweat you became independent, self sustaining. These were the Settlers, a hearty stock of courageous people which was good stock. The cowards stayed in Europe.

Much later on people came here because you could be a success in America by hard work, for we did not have the strict class system of Europe. Upward mobility here was so much better, and it attracted people. Later on we needed workers for our factories, and companies like Stetson took in this new legal immigrants and gave them their livings. But at some point, we no longer needed to staff our factories for we had enough americans, and we became more selective on who was allowed in. Which was the intelligent thing to do. Then all of that went out the door when Kennedy wanted to limit Europeans and take in people who many times came from cultures that did not hold western values. From that point on, you can see social problems explode, with people not wanting to assimilate, and the demise of American culture. Which was the most unintelligent thing to do, and strictly coming from the left wingnuts. Perhaps white guilt drove it, who knows?

Yes, immigrants had to populate our nation, but not all immigrants have been good for America. The good immigrants living under a constitutional republic with god given rights is what made America the richest most powerful nation on earth, yet without our industrial base, making what we consume, we would never have been great. We would never have had prosperity and security for non college material people, or create history's largest middle class.

So the recipe used to make America what she once was IS NOT, the current recipe being used. We know what worked, and we can now see what does not work, which intelligence would have told us without changing the recipe. We do not need immigration anymore to settle frontiers nor to staff our economic production. Instead we need highly skilled people not dirt poor unskilled. Which means we need a new immigration policy, but one which is not just devised to allow in skilled people to displace our own skilled workers, in order to drive down wages and stagnate them. We cannot just open the doors to all, which attracts people who just want to live here. We need to strictly limit who comes here, and the ability and proclivity to assimilate being one of the factors. For non assimilation creates division, and division is a prerequisite for social problems and conflict. No nation should willingly create the foundation for conflict, so it is time for human intelligence to overrule emotions. And if the left side is bothered by it, we just have to ignore them, and let the intelligent make the decisions. In the self interest of America.

 

no guilt on my end, and no apologies asked for or given for the harsh treatment my polish/german/irish ancestors received when they legally immigrated here. No white privilege checks have arrived in the mail, I think they (whoever THEY are) might have the wrong address for me but I can't figure out who to ask.

 

My ancestors were in northern Ireland when US slavery happened. They had nothing to do with slavery.

 

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

 

The only way illegal immigrants get welfare is if they have a child that is a citizen even legal immigrants have to wait 5 years before they can get any sort of government assistance it is a law

 

By educating myself Sergey Brin and Andrew Carnegie and whole bunch in between were immigrants

 

Andrew Carnegie and Sergey Brin were what percentage of immigrants?

I'll help you out: Not statistically relevant.

The fact is, we had very limited immigration for much of the 20th Century, 1924-1965, and we reached our height of power during that time. We can do without immigrants. They're not a necessity.

 

Actually those are only two examples if you keep reaching your arm out of the window that far a passing car is going to clip it off.

 

The massive immigration in the first part of the last century gave rise to the prosperity of the last part of the last century

 

That sounds like a religious belief, not a demonstrable fact. So...if we send our illegals back it will release unbounded prosperity in these poor countries by your logic.

 

Trying to make a demonstrable fact into a religious belief is dishonest

 

Actually there is nothing in my logic to even suggest your statement

 

It is true

 

For something to be a demonstrable fact is has to pass two tests:

1. Be demonstrable
2. Be a fact

So far you've demonstrated neither.

 

There's no such thing. It's all just another racist attack by the racist right. And it feeds off a legitimate intention to end racism and to erase racism of the past.

 

Acknowledging institutionalized racism and wanting to fix it ≠ having white guilt. If you feel guilty, that's on you.

 

For it to be a believe it has to be totally non demonstrable which you have going for you

 

You were the one who made the non demonstrable non fact:

Still waiting...

 

America is a nation of immigrants so if immigrants didnt build it your assertion that some sort of mythical creatures must have built it is silly.

 

Since it's an invention of fevered right wing brows it's obviously absurd.