White House frustration with Garland grows

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  1. CornPop

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/09/white-house-frustration-with-garland-grows-00140813

    This article details problems that Biden has with Merrick Garland. To list a few:

    1. Biden is upset Garland allowed a special counsel to say his diminished mental faculties are why he couldn't be prosecuted.

    2. Biden is upset with Garland for not editing special counsel Hur's report to his benefit before it was publicly released. This would have been an ethics violation.

    3. Biden is upset Garland allowed a special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden's numerous crimes of which there was ample evidence of.

    4. Biden is upset Garland didn't step in and speed up the investigation into Hunter Biden.

    5. Biden is upset Garland did not force an earlier prosecution of Trump to have had more effect on interfering in the upcoming election.

    A former justice official explained Garland's actions.

    A. Biden's team could have exerted executive privilege over Hur's report if they wanted it censored.

    B. If Garland edited Hur's report he would have had to explain why, while under oath, to Congress.

    C. The special counsel was assigned to the Biden classified documents case because the White House got caught in a lie about how they were found. They also kept changing their story and couldn't get their lies straight. If the White House has released a better story and remained consistent it would have been easier for the DoJ to cover for him.

    D. Biden picked Garland because he claimed he wanted to "restore independence" to the DoJ. But these actions have shown that is not the case.

    E. With a special counsel investigating Trump for having classified documents he wouldn't be able to justify inserting himself to shut down an investigation into Biden for doing the same thing.

    Biden's team have effectively said that if Biden wins the upcoming election it is unlikely Garland would remain as Attorney General. He wants more of a yes man who will cover for his illegal behavior, prevent justice for his son, and interfere in politics to benefit him personally.
     
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    It looks to me like Garland has been doing those things. I wouldn't worry, though. He and the rest of the administration will be replaced next January whether Trump or whoever replaces Biden on the ballot assumes office.
     
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    The report plays right into the major doubt voters have about Biden, although outside of political junkies and the very partisan, I doubt many have paid much attention to it. Regardless, Biden’s age and mental fitness is one big issue with Biden’s reelection. From a Marist Poll – Question Is Joe Biden mentally fit to serve as President of the United States or do you have doubts about his fitness for office? 64% of all Americans have doubts about Biden’s mental fitness, 36% do not.

    Second question - Do you think Joe Biden is showing he is too old to be President, or do you think he is showing he is fit to be president? 69% say too old, 31% Biden’s isn’t.

    https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/HHP_Jan24_KeyResults.pdf

    Biden’s age and mental acumen or fitness to serve another term is one big reason he and Trump are in a basic tie for the upcoming election. The problem with this rematch is most Americans don’t want Biden reelected, most Americans also don’t want Trump to regain the white house. For most Americans this is an election made in hell, an election where both major parties are telling most Americans to stick it where the sun don’t shine.

    Also in the link above 64% of all Americans think this country needs another viable candidate other than Trump and Biden. 55% of all Americans are considering voting for a moderate independent if the rematch occurs. Then in the link below, you have 58% of all Americans who don’t want Biden to run again, 54% don’t want Trump to run again either.

    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_f5kOruS.pdf

    What we have here when averaging out all the polls that give the respondents more choices other than just Biden and Trump such as other or names like RFK Jr., West, Stein, other candidates or will not vote is 35% for Trump, 35% for Biden, 30% who dislike both Trump and Biden, who don’t want neither one to become the next president who state they’ll either vote third party or won’t vote at all if the rematch occurs. Why? - Felonies, Old Age Heavily Count Against Candidates

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/609344...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication
     
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    The White House can be as upset as they want to be, but if he had put any pressure on the investigation or concealed its findings, then they would be out of work in short order. There is a reason for independent investigations and the WH seems to be arguing this one was too independent.
     
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    I'm tired of presidents using the DOJ and the FBI for politics. The work of the DOJ and the FBI should be independent and free of politics.

    I would favor a law or a constitutional amendment making the appointment of the AG and FBI Director subject to a 75% vote of the Senate and subject to a yearly vote of confidence. Neither party would be able to install "their man" into these positions because either party would be able to vote down the appointment. By doing that, it would force the Congress to choose an AG and FBI Director who would be impartial, dedicated only to upholding the law in a non-political manner.
     
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    I tend to vote third party. I get it from both sides in my personal life who both say a throwaway vote is a vote against their candidate. I think it's important to let the major parties know there are voters who vote for the person who best fits their idealogy and they need to become more realistic. I also supported Perot (based on your handle). I didn't like everything he wanted to do with the Reform Party, but he most closely aligned with my beliefs. The reason we are stuck with Biden and Trump is because people fall for the same trap every election. The parties know they can count on people to support whoever gets nominated and then it is just a battle of voter turnout percentages. So they need to pay for votes, stoke fear, etc to force people to the polls. As an example what's Biden's platform beyond the fact that he isn't Trump? He's not campaigning on his record or what policies he supports. Americans aren't happy with what he has done as president the first few years, but that matters little and the party knows it. Trump is at least talking about the issues his base cares about: immigration, the economy, weaponizing the DoJ, etc. But, he's hyper-focused on personal attacks and his personal legal troubles which turns off a lot of the middle.
     
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    Garland is covering his ass in case Trump gets elected.
     
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    I don’t think voting third party is a wasted vote. In 2016 I was so disgusted with both Clinton and Trump, voting third party was my way of officially registering my vote against both. With my disdain for both, I didn’t care who won. With most Americans disliking and not wanting neither major party candidates to become the next president, there’s no way either should be their party’s nominee. Trump’s uncouth, rude, obnoxious personality is a huge turnoff, he acts and behaves like a spoiled 4-year-old brat with his name calling and throwing of temper tantrums along with his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. That leaves one to believe mentally, he has the mind of a kinder gardener. His policies weren’t liked either when he was president averaging only a 40% job approval.


    Biden has the same overall job approval of 40%. He’s old, most folks think his mind is going. He’s a weak candidate, he looks not only old, but frail. Most Americans fear he won’t be able to survive another 4 years. This is why 41% of all Americans want both major parties to have different candidates other than Biden and or Trump. That 64% of all Americans want another choice other than those two. This is why 30% of all Americans are seriously considering voting third party or staying home and not voting at all if the rematch occurs. Most Americans are totally dissatisfied which is putting it mildly with the choice both major parties are giving us. Most Americans dread this upcoming presidential election. That is the most used word when describing this presidential election between Biden and Trump.


    https://news.yahoo.com/poll-dread-tops-list-of-americans-feelings-about-2024-election-191803206.html


    This election is fast becoming a who cares who wins or loses election. Especially among those who dislike and don’t want neither Trump nor Biden.
     
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