White House Launches Site Where You Can Report Anti-Conservative Bias from Tech Giants

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by XXJefferson#51, May 22, 2019.

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should ISP’s be required to serve and be fair to all viewpoints in order to exist?

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  1. FlamingLib

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    Same as Republican attacks on CNN and MSNBC. Neither side agrees with each other's biases.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    Actually they already have all my info since I’m a monthly donor to the Trump 2020 campaign.
     
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    CNN is already taking a massive financial hit with its bias.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    And there is a so called media fact check group called Media Bias Fact Check which is a prime example of the above.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It even has the Orwellian name.
     
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    I am a small Cyberspace Citizen. But I hope President Trump will do everything in his power to dismantle Social Media monopolies. If some cases come to Supreme Court, Justice Kavanaugh may remember what Democrats did to him.

    Will the President succeed? I do not know.
     
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    I hope he doesn't succeed in the authoritarian ambitions you have for him. I personally like private property rights and actual free speech. I don't want to see it go away just because some on the fringe right (and the left too, actually) have violated the rules of their platforms and think the government needs to step in to protect their feelings through force. You can't get more snowflakey than that. I also hope Kavanaugh is more of a professional than what you just tried to paint him as -- someone who would compromise his responsibilities for a cheap partisan political score.
     
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    Only time will tell. I hope President Trump can Make Online Speech Free Again. Most Conservatives will agree with me.

    People have lost platform for speech which is not Hate Speech by any stretch of imagination. People have been deplatformed for advocating Presumption of Innocence.
     
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    I hope you are wrong. I don't think most Conservatives are actually that poorly informed about Constitutional rights or that eager for Government thugs to force publishers to print things against their will. But maybe time will prove me wrong. If you are right, Conservatives are running complete laps around liberals when it comes to being snowflakes.

    No one owes you a platform. No one owes you their property. Conservatives used to understand this.

    Even if you were right, and I doubt you are, you are still advocating the removal of the actual free speech rights of the platforms in favor of a fake "right" to force people to publish your views against their will.

    I encourage you to check out some of those Conservatives who respect property rights and limited government principles instead of whatever "Conservatives" you've been hanging out with lately.
     
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    Only time will tell. I would have to look up surveys on percentage of Conservatives supporting President Trump in enforcing Free Speech.

    I am not a Conservative and most Conservatives may disagree with me.
     
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    If they used to understand it, as you say, then they changed to being Democrats. Ergo no longer conservatives.
     
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    I must not be a conservative either given I get all over Abraham Lincoln for not being one.
     
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    In which case modern Conservatives are now the ones who don't understand the basics of private property and it is now the Democrats who grasp these simple concepts? You sure you want to go with that one?
     
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    I believe that the hate campaigns against FOX started up when they opened up. CNN once was a good supplier of honest reporting.

    Surveys show that in the Media, 7 percent are republicans.
     
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    Democrats defended private property in 1861. Maybe this time they will win.

    I am not a Conservative. I support Welfare State. I am proud of my greatgrandparents who were part of 1917 Revolution.
     
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    People aren't legitimate private property. Websites are. If you really had a problem with privately owned websites having terms of service, and you really thought that basic terms of service were somehow a violation of your right to free speech, you wouldn't be contributing to this forum.
     
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    Only courts can decide which anti monopoly laws apply.
     
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    Well, hopefully they won't decide that the government should be in the business of forcing people to publish things against their will. I'm sorry you disagree and think that hurt feelings are more important than basic rights.
     
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    I think that if Liberals pressure all companies to ban views which offend them, then our society would become Totalitarian. It is very likely, that within a few years anyone who disagrees with Liberals would not be able to find any online platform. That is not a Free Society.

    If I would not be welcome on a Democratic forum, that is their right. If anyone who strongly disagrees with Liberals would be unwelcome on any forum then our Society is not really Free.
     
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    No, it isn't likely. All conservatives would have to do is create an online platform. It is a fake concern being used to try to argue against actual liberties. You are arguing against a Free Society by advocating that the government tell publishers what to publish.
     
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    If Social Media Giants succeed in deplatforming Gab.com, infowars.com, and other Conservative websites, then it would be the end of Free Society and beginning of Totalitarianism.
     
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    Everyone you just mentioned is perfectly capable of providing their own platform. Gab and Inforwars both do. I'm sorry, but you don't appear to understand either property rights, free speech, or totalitarianism. Forcing people to publish things against their will would be far more authoritarian. Here, I'll prove it too you. I'll print up a bunch of "Baby killing, gun grabbing, gay satanists for Soros" fliers and you let me know if you would be okay with the government forcing you to post those fliers in your yard.
     
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    Until Liberals pressure their Internet Hosting companies to ban them.

    Then all people who strongly disagree with Liberals will find that they have no online space to express their views.

    Half of people on this forum will have nowhere to express their views.
     
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    They can host their own websites. Pretty sure InfoWars already does. You can host your own website with your own server.

    Complete nonsense.

    If that were even remotely true then they already would have nowhere to express their views.
     
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    Bottom line; if you don't like tech companies that silence opposing viewpoints, find another tech company that doesn't. It's not a violation of the first amendment if tech companies don't want certain viewpoints expressed. Remember, tech companies are not the Congress.

    Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment
     

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