"White House seeks to clarify Trump remarks on emergency"

Did nothing? Where did the money come from to build new sections of the border wall?

LOL

Dang, the emptiness of your argument is only exceeded by an ego that thinks it's communicating something of value.

 

Do you people live in caves?

The Democrats, last year offering twenty billion and in December one and half billion, have always supported border security, what they oppose, as does anyone who doesn't believe Sean Hannity, is a "big, beautiful, tremendous, thirty foot high, reinforced concrete wall"

 

Why do you think the President has the power to declare an emergency?

Go consult whatever liberal sources you lean on to see if they have an answer you can use.

As to judges, what are going to do when they uphold the President's action?

 

Hahahahhahahahahhahahah

 

Know, all we need to do is use history books on the American Civil War published before the 1960's.

Those who have been indoctrinated in revisionist history don't even know what a "copperhead" is or who were labeled as "radicals" as in "radical Republicans" as Lincoln referred them as or what a carpetbagger or scalawags were.

 

He didn't need to do it if the New Democratic Party members took the recommendations of the DHS/ICE/CBP seriously. Instead, they want to play politics during a crisis.

No effort to twist his claim out of context will change the facts.

I find it hysterical the alt-left media ministries are loosing their minds over this meme your pushing from them. Man, talk about a trained audience.

 

Your really going to try and sell that nonsense? The President offered to support DACA in return for Border Wall construction money.

Democrats turned it down.

Let me remind you:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/trump-daca-deal-is-a-dream-come-true-for-democrats-commentary.html

Excerpt: Emphasis added for clarity

First, the Trump offer covers a surprisingly larger number of illegal immigrants than expected. The White House plan more than doubles the number of people who could take advantage of its pathway to citizenship.​

Second, the demands President Trump makes in return for that massive amnesty expansion aren't as harsh as they look from the headlines. We already know there is at least some Democratic support for the $25 billion the president wants for border security and an enhanced border wall.

Even though Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer officially pulled support for that money earlier this week, he agreed to it once before; he can do it again.​

 

Every lawyer in the country (and indeed every person not immediately prone to supporting trump regardless of what he said) heard that phrase and understood that the quote directly undercut the legal justifications for the national emergency declaration.

Democrats and Republicans listened to the experts and then they negotiated, in good faith, for a deal that Trump signed. In fact, he has signed multiple DHS funding packages in his two years as President and each time, Democrats and Republicans listened to experts, negotiated in good faith, and provided him the amount of money that they believed was appropriate. That is the job of Congress.

Trump did not like the amount of funding provided for his project, so he declared a national emergency solely to get more funding.

That is unprecedented and it is unconstitutional - in significant part because TRUMP HIMSELF just directly said that he did not need to declare a national emergency, that he could have waited for negotiations, but he wanted to do it faster.

Trump explicitly declared that he had other options. National Emergencies are not optional. There is no national emergency on the southern border.

On a related note, trump implied that he had access to secret statistics that prove illegals are more criminal than the larger population and that illegals are crossing at numbers higher than those publicly reported. You claim to be an expert. What are his statistics?

 

Don't care what happened in the past - it's the past.

This action by Trump, taken purely on IT'S face value, is an attempt to circumvent the Constitutionally given powers of Congress to control the power of the purse. Hopefully the courts will restore that balance in reviewing future lawsuits.

And I blame the Congressional delegates of BOTH parties for abdicating their power in this failure.

 

Trump did not offer DACA protection for the 25 billion dollar wall.

Trump offered DACA protection for the 25 billion dollar wall, elimination of the family reunification process, alterations to the VISA program, and a ~50% reduction in legal immigration.

 

Right. Trump and the Democrats had a DACA-for-wall deal, and then Trump's base got wind of it, and that was the end of that.

 

To deal with actual emergencies.

Abide by it. I believe in the rule of law. I will also abide by Mueller's report, even if it completely exonerates Trump. Trump fanatics, of course, could not make a similar pledge. They have already convinced themselves Mueller is part of some Deep State(tm) coup.

 

Every lawyer in the country...……



I would suggest you try to cut out the absurd hyperbole if you're going to try to make a point.

BTW, National Emergencies are most certainly optional, it takes a declaration to establish one. If that declaration isn't made, what is it called?

 

Actual emergencies like the crisis on the Southwest Border the liberal media ministries have been reporting on?

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-crisis-at-the-border/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-crisis-on-the-border-1405029753
https://www.nbcnews.com/immigration-border-crisis

I abide by the law as well. That's why I look into the actual laws involved, rather than make claims pulled from the headlines.

 

If it was an emergency, Trump wouldn't have waited two years to declare an emergency.

Hey, if you think this is a good move, I'm obviously not going to talk you out of it. Just try not to be too surprised when the next Democrat President pulls this on health care or climate change or gun control.

 

Two years ago there weren't caravans.

They probably would have anyway.

 

How many caravans were forming two years ago?

If there was nothing going on, why were your media operations calling it a crisis?

 

OMG! A migrant caravan of brown people! Quick, declare a national emergency!

Snark aside, we all know why this is a "national emergency". You guys can't stand America getting browner. We get it. My parents are like that. They became much worse when Obama was elected. That was when the truth was delivered home to you guys.

 

When you have no rational argument, SOP is to play the race card.

The fall back of the intellectually vacant.....

 

Oh, I got it, the UB Philips version, with the parasite carpetbaggers, the only thing that separated Lincoln from his Radical Republicans was his ten percent plan, you didn't think he got the 13th Amendment through Congress on his own did you

 

Try listening to all of the speech instead of the soundbites. He explained quite clearly that he wouldn't had had to do this if congress had done their damn jobs instead of play politics. But go ahead, play your silly word games with 2 second soundbites. I know, if sentences get much longer, liberals have a hard time focusing on what is being said. Trump is completely outmaneuvering the democrats in their silly little obstruction game, in it is driving liberals absolutely bonkers. It's hillarious!

 

Lol....yeah, sure that's gotta be it.

Make him fail.....ruh...ruh. doesn't get more American than that.
Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and make him fail? Not quite the same....thanks Trump.

 

I did listen to the entire speech. He decided to WING a national security declaration. He STARTED his national declaration speech by talking about Russia and North Korea. He spent much of his speech talking about the economy and whether Obama was on the verge of declaring war on North Korea. CBS cut away from his speech to go to Price is Right because he kept spouting the same bullshit that he would give in any campaign rally. And I found another channel that was still carrying him specifically because I wanted to see how he would react to questions from journalists.

And then, he said, that he did not need to do this. That he could have waited. That he only made this declaration because he wanted to do it faster. National emergencies are not optional.

Get ****ing real with your bullshit.

But even if he did not explicitly undermine the legal justification for his national declaration by publicly admitting that he "did not need to do this" (and he did), then his actions speak just as loud. He waited two years to make the declaration. He waited until after congressional negotiators came to him with a bipartisan plan. He waited until the only option for him to save face with his base was to sign the bipartisan funding bill and declare a national emergency.

 

A national emergency.

And yes, every lawyer in the country. Ask your wife: If she had to defend trump's national emergency declaration in court, would she expect and need to explain why that statement is either irrelevant or does not mean what the plain language and context of that statement would lead a reasonable person to believe.

 

Wrong, again.

Event: Trump gets OWNED (and caves in)

Trumpist Take: Trump is outmaneuvering Democrats.