Who do you consider white? Is white a valid race?

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  1. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    I am so- called white, its therefore not racist.

    The similarities between the so- called white race and Esau are there, its no big deal, move on.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you said you are not white in another post.

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    Esau never existed. Its just a myth.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    If all else fails and the truth is revealed, yell "MYTH!"

    why even bother discussing it at all if its 'myth'?

    Also iam a so-called white, thus its not racist, move on.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have no evidence that this so-called person named "Esau" ever existed.

    I say Thor exists. Can you prove me wrong?
     
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    Thor propably did exist, either way, it doesnt bother me. You can have your history and let Israel have theirs, no big deal.

    Maybe youre worried that your 'mythological' figure is not as powerful as mine, so you want to deny any and all historical figures that were around before so- called white ppl existed [2,000 years ago]
     
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    You're not Jewish, so Israel has nothing to do with you.
     
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    Personally I have quite an inclusive definition of "white", for example Id say jews, arabs and hispanics are generally part of white race. Thats because "race" to me implies a basic division of humanity into only a handful genetic categories. And when you exclude those groups, then they would have to make up their own race and that would inevitably mean there will be like dozen or more races of humans, which is too much.
     
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    many Jews are white, but a lot are not.
     
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    Yes and Israel has nothing to do with jewish ppl who got fed up with european governments and decided to follow an Afrikan Deity, much to the dismay of Europeans, who have ever since been trying to exterminate these 'traitors'.
     
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    99% of jewish ppl are white.
     
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    bull(*)(*)(*)(*), as more than 50% of Jews in Israel are of North African/Middle Eastern descent.

    a majority of Jews in the world are white, but not as great a majority as it was before the Holocaust, as most of the Jews killed by Hitler were white Jews.
     
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    there were many so- called white tribes that formed a coalition that conspired to destroy Afrika from a time before Israel was conceived. jewish ppl could be part of that, imean, jewish ppl were leading the charge in terms of finance when it came to enslaving millions of Afrikans in the 15th century. This is likely part of Esaus everlasting hatred of Jake.
     
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    :roflol:

    silly conspiracy theories =====>http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/

    more hatred of the Jews.

    when will people stop blaming Jews for all of their problems? blaming the Jews for the African slave trade is pretty stupid, considering all the black Africans that sold their black brothers into slavery for weapons and drugs.
     
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    See, the more you post the more you show how little you know about this situation. Do you even know what im on about in that post?

    Ididnt quote the rest of your post because its racist falsehoods that so-called blacks sold their family members to europeans.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, its 100% factual that black Africans sold other black Africans into slavery for weapons, drugs, and other things.
     
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    False history, as taught by euro americans. Its called the white gaze, where history is taught through a white perspective for white ppl.

    Have fun with that and let Yah be the judge.
     
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    I'm very sorry to be the one to finally tell you this, but black Africans did indeed help Europeans capture, round up, and ship off millions of slaves to Europe and the Western Hemisphere.

    what...did you think blacks were innocent in the slave trade???

    :roflol:
     
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    now thats more accurate

    :thumbsup:
     
  19. Ovadia

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    There are plenty that can. My family's ancestors certainly can. His family in particular traces back to israel. Rabbinical families from babylon and europe sometimes can even trace their lines directly back to the davidic line. I have already posted proof of this, at least for ashkenazi jews. Babylonian jews, its well known, as it is for sefaradic jews (who also partially descend from babylonian jews, who themselves have davidic lines. Its common knowledge in the religious jewish circles. Jews have in some cases kept excellent genealogies.

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    So do kurds, persians, georgians, armenians, dagestanis, azeris, and yes, even some arabs.
     
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    prove it.

    name all your ancestors going directly back to ancient Israel.

    I am 100% confident you can't.
     
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    If you mean literally by skin color, many jews have white skin, whether from azerbaijan, germany, italy, poland, morocco, or iraq. So they are white. But religious denominations and cultural customs do not designate which jews are white and which ones are not.

    The word 'jew' has several different meanings, but most mass converts to judaism are not white/caucasian, the ones from the african lemba tribe, ethiopia, india, and china are obviously not white in any sense of the word.
     
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    I don't have to prove a single thing to you about my personal family background and I would never divulge that information. I have already provided evidence for other jews tracing their lines back to king david, this is well known. You on the other hand have made countless claims that have no basis in reality, like that middle eastern jews never have blue eyes or white skin or that bavlim are descended from mythical arab tribes.
     
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    you have provided no such evidence.

    you make claims, but provide no evidence.

    now, kindly name any Jew that can trace their ancestry directly back to the Israelites.

    ....with evidence for their claim.

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    I would be shocked if any Jew on Earth can trace their ancestors back more than 400 years.

    I personally can go back to the 1851, when my great-great grandfather was born.
     
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    You are talking about yourself here. I have provided evidence in this thread as well as other threads many times. You are the one who has made historically false claims with zero evidence, even your past claims have been countered but you still keep repeating them.

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    My god, the ignorance...:wall:

    Following the conquest of Judah by Babylon and the exile of its population, the Babylonian Exilarchate was established. The highest official of Babylonian Jewry was the exilarch (Reish Galuta, "Head of the Diaspora"). Those who held the position traced their ancestry to the House of David in the male line.[5]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidic_line

    Sherira was born in 906, the descendant, both on his father's and his mother's side, of prominent families, several members of which had occupied the gaonate. His father was Hananiah ben R. Yehudai, also a gaon. Sherira claimed descent from Rabbah b. Abuha, who belonged to the family of the exilarch,

    I am not going to divulge any further personal information, but thats a start. Bavlim descend from arab tribes that converted lol, this is getting beyond silly. My ancestors and branch of jews kept stellar genealogies.
     
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    still waitiing for you to prove me wrong.

    name a Jew that can trace their exact ancestors back more than 400 years, and name these ancestors.
     

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